RЎRїRµS†RїSЂRѕRµRyeS‚

RђRЅRgSЂRµR° RGR°R»SѓRїR°, R°RIS‚RѕSЂRyeR° SЃS†RµRЅR°SЂS–SЋ S„S–R»SЊRјSѓ V«R¦S–RЅR° RїSЂR°RIRgRёV»: V«S†Rµ S–SЃS‚RѕSЂS–SЏ, SЏRyeSѓ SЂRѕR·RїRѕRIS–RI RјRµRЅS– RgS–RgSѓSЃSЊV»

RЎS†RµRЅR°SЂS–R№ RgRѕ S„S–R»SЊRјSѓ V«R¦S–RЅR° RїSЂR°RIRgRёV», SЏRyeRёR№ R·RЅSЏR»R° RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeR° SЂRµR¶RёSЃRµSЂRyeR° RђT‘RЅS”S€RyeR° R“RѕR»R»R°RЅRg, RЅR°RїRёSЃR°R»R° RђRЅRgSЂRµR° RGR°R»SѓRїR° vЂ“ R°RјRµSЂRёRyeR°RЅSЃSЊRyeR° R¶SѓSЂRЅR°R»S–SЃS‚RyeR° SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ RїRѕS…RѕRgR¶RµRЅRЅSЏ. R’RѕRЅR° RgSЂSѓRyeSѓS”S‚SЊSЃSЏ RI V«The AtlanticV», V«TIMEV», V«ForbesV». R’RїRµSЂS€Rµ RїSЂRѕ R“RѕR»RѕRgRѕRјRѕSЂ RђRЅRgSЂRµR° RїRѕS‡SѓR»R° RI RgRёS‚RёRЅSЃS‚RIS– RIS–Rg SЃRIRѕRiRѕ RgS–RgSѓSЃSЏ, SЏRyeRёR№ R№RѕRiRѕ RїRµSЂRµR¶RёRI. Rђ RI SЃS‚SѓRgRµRЅS‚SЃSЊRyeS– SЂRѕRyeRё RIRѕRЅR° S‡RёS‚R°R»R° RїSЂRѕ R¶RёS‚S‚SЏ SЂRµRїRѕSЂS‚RµSЂR° V«New York TimesV» R’RѕR»S‚RµSЂR° R”SЋSЂR°RЅS‚S– RI RњRѕSЃRyeRIS–. RЎR°RјRµ S‚RѕRgS– RIRѕRЅR° RgS–R·RЅR°R»R°SЃSЏ RїSЂRѕ R“R°SЂRµS‚R° R”R¶RѕRЅSЃR°, RїSЂRёRiR°RgR°R»R° S–SЃS‚RѕSЂS–SЋ SЃRIRѕS”S— SЂRѕRgRёRЅRё S– RIRёSЂS–S€RёR»R°: V«RЇ S‚RѕS‡RЅRѕ RЅR°RїRёS€Sѓ SЃS†RµRЅR°SЂS–R№ RgRѕ S„S–R»SЊRјSѓ, SЏRyeRёR№ SЂRѕR·RїRѕRIS–RgR°S‚RёRјRµ RїSЂRѕ S†RµV».

"R†SЃS‚RѕSЂRёS‡RЅR° RџSЂR°RIRgR°" RїSѓR±R»S–RyeSѓS” S†Rµ S–RЅS‚RµSЂRISЋ S–R· R»SЋR±SЏR·RЅRѕRiRѕ RgRѕR·RIRѕR»Sѓ R°RIS‚RѕSЂRyeRё S‚R° RIRёRgR°RЅRЅSЏ "RќR°S€Rµ RЎR»RѕRIRѕ".

 

- RџR°RјSЏS‚R°S”S€, SЏRye S‚Rё RIRїRµSЂS€Rµ RgS–R·RЅR°R»R°SЃSЏ RїSЂRѕ R“RѕR»RѕRgRѕRјRѕSЂ? R† RyeRѕR»Rё S†Rµ SЃS‚R°R»Rѕ S–RgRµS”SЋ RgR»SЏ SЃS†RµRЅR°SЂS–SЋ RgR»SЏ S„S–R»SЊRјSѓ?

- RЇ R±SѓR»R° RјR°R»RµRЅSЊRyeRѕSЋ RgS–RIS‡RёRЅRyeRѕSЋ. R”SѓRјR°SЋ, S‰Rѕ SЏRye SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅRyeR° RI RђRјRµSЂRёS†S– SЏ SЂRѕSЃR»R° Sѓ SЃRµSЂRµRgRѕRIRёS‰S–, RgRµ RISЃS– R·RЅR°SЋS‚SЊ RїSЂRѕ R“RѕR»RѕRgRѕRјRѕSЂ. R† SЏ RgSѓR¶Rµ SЂR°RgR°, S‰Rѕ RјRѕSЏ SЃS–RјSЏ RiRѕRIRѕSЂRёR»R° RїSЂRѕ S†SЋ R¶R°S…R»RёRISѓ S–SЃS‚RѕSЂS–SЋ. RњRµRЅS– R±SѓR»Rѕ S‚RѕRgS– 7-9 SЂRѕRyeS–RI, RјR°R±SѓS‚SЊ.

RџRѕS‚S–Rј, RIRёRIS‡R°SЋS‡Rё S–SЃS‚RѕSЂS–SЋ (RђRЅRgSЂRµR° RGR°R»SѓRїR° RЅR°RIS‡R°R»R°SЃSЏ RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕRјSѓ RЅR°SѓRyeRѕRIRѕRјSѓ S–RЅSЃS‚RёS‚SѓS‚S– R“R°SЂRIR°SЂRgSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ SѓRЅS–RIRµSЂSЃRёS‚RµS‚Sѓ – SЂRµRg.), SЏ RїRѕS‡R°R»R° S†S–RyeR°RIRёS‚RёSЃSЊ R’RѕR»S‚RµSЂRѕRј R”SЋSЂR°RЅS‚S–. RњRµRЅRµ R·R°S…RѕRїRёR»R° S–SЃS‚RѕSЂS–SЏ R№RѕRiRѕ R±R°RiR°S‚RѕRiRѕ S– SЂRѕR·RїSѓSЃRЅRѕRiRѕ R¶RёS‚S‚SЏ RI RњRѕSЃRyeRIS–. R¦Rµ – S–RgRµR°R»SЊRЅR° S‚RµRјR° RgR»SЏ RїSЂRѕRyeSЂR°SЃS‚RёRЅR°S†S–S—, RyeRѕR»Rё RїRѕS‚SЂS–R±RЅRѕ RIS‡RёS‚RёSЃSЏ (SЃRјS–S”S‚SЊSЃSЏ).

R§RёRј R±S–R»SЊS€Rµ SЏ RgS–R·RЅR°RIR°R»R°SЃSЏ, S‚RёRј R±S–R»SЊS€Rµ SЂRѕR·SѓRјS–R»R° – S†Rµ R±SѓRgRµ RyeSЂSѓS‚RёR№ S„S–R»SЊRј! R†RgRµSЏ R·SЏRIRёR»R°SЃSЏ Sѓ RјRµRЅRµ RI 2003 SЂRѕS†S–. RџRµSЂS€RёR№ SЃS†RµRЅR°SЂS–R№ SЏ RЅR°RїRёSЃR°R»R° Sѓ 2006 SЂRѕS†S–. Rђ S„S–R»SЊRј R·RЅS–RјR°RISЃSЏ Sѓ 2018 SЂRѕS†S–. RЁR»SЏS… S†SЊRѕRiRѕ SЃS†RµRЅR°SЂS–SЋ RgRѕ RIS‚S–R»RµRЅRЅSЏ R±SѓRI RgRѕRIRiRёRј.

- RўRIS–R№ RgS–RgSѓSЃSЊ RїRµSЂRµS—S…R°RI R· RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅRё RgRѕ RЎRЁRђ. Rђ RgRµ RЅR°SЂRѕRgRёR»RёSЃSЏ S‚RIRѕS— R±R°S‚SЊRyeRё?

- RњRѕS— R±R°R±SѓSЃSЏ S– RgS–RgSѓSЃSЊ RIS‚RµRyeR»Rё R· R R°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ RЎRѕSЋR·Sѓ RїS–SЃR»SЏ R”SЂSѓRiRѕS— SЃRIS–S‚RѕRIRѕS— RIS–R№RЅRё. RЎS–RјSЏ RјRѕS”S— RјR°RјRё – R· R”RѕRЅR±R°SЃSѓ, R° SЃS–RјSЏ R±R°S‚SЊRyeR° – R·S– R›SЊRIRѕRIR°. R’RѕRЅRё RIS‚RµRyeR»Rё RI RќS–RјRµS‡S‡RёRЅSѓ, Sѓ S‚R°R±S–SЂ RgR»SЏ R±S–R¶RµRЅS†S–RI R· RЎR RЎR . RњRѕS— R±R°S‚SЊRyeRё RЅR°SЂRѕRgRёR»RёSЃSЏ RIR¶Rµ RI S†SЊRѕRјSѓ S‚R°R±RѕSЂS–. R’R¶Rµ RїS–R·RЅS–S€Rµ RIRѕRЅRё RїRµSЂRµS—S…R°R»Rё R· S–RЅS€RёRјRё R±S–R¶RµRЅS†SЏRјRё RgRѕ RќSЊSЋ-R™RѕSЂRyeR°.

R”S–RgSѓSЃSЊ RђRЅRgSЂRµR° RGR°R»SѓRїRё – RћR»RµRyeSЃS–R№ RљRµR№SЃ, R“R°R№RgRµRЅR°Sѓ, RќS–RјRµS‡S‡RёRЅR°, 1946 SЂS–Rye
R”S–RgSѓSЃSЊ RђRЅRgSЂRµR° RGR°R»SѓRїRё – RћR»RµRyeSЃS–R№ RљRµR№SЃ, R“R°R№RgRµRЅR°Sѓ, RќS–RјRµS‡S‡RёRЅR°, 1946 SЂS–Rye
R¤RѕS‚Rѕ R· SЃS–RјRµR№RЅRѕRiRѕ R°SЂS…S–RISѓ

- RўRIS–R№ RgS–RgSѓSЃSЊ RiRѕRIRѕSЂRёRI SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕSЋ?

- Rћ S‚R°Rye, R·RIS–SЃRЅRѕ. R¦Rµ RїRѕRyeR°R·SѓS” S‚R°RyeRѕR¶, SЏRye R“RѕR»RѕRgRѕRјRѕSЂ R·RјS–RЅRёRI R”RѕRЅR±R°SЃ. R’R°R¶R»RёRIRѕ R·RЅR°S‚Rё, S‰Rѕ SЂRѕSЃS–R№SЃSЊRyeRѕRјRѕRIRЅS– R»SЋRgRё R·SЏRIRёR»RёSЃSЊ S‚R°Rј R»RёS€Rµ RIRїSЂRѕRgRѕRIR¶ RѕSЃS‚R°RЅRЅS–S… RїRѕRyeRѕR»S–RЅSЊ.

- R©Rѕ R±SѓR»Rѕ RЅR°R№SЃRyeR»R°RgRЅS–S€RёRј RI SЂRѕR±RѕS‚S– RЅR°Rg SЃS†RµRЅR°SЂS–S”Rј S„S–R»SЊRјSѓ?

- R—R°SЂR°R· RIR°R¶RyeRѕ RїRѕRIS–SЂRёS‚Rё, S‰Rѕ R±SѓRI S‚R°RyeRёR№ S‡R°SЃ, RyeRѕR»Rё R·R°S…S–RgRЅRёR№ SЃRIS–S‚ R·R°S…RѕRїR»SЋRIR°RISЃSЏ RЎS‚R°R»S–RЅRёRј. R—R°SЂR°R· RјRё SЂRѕR·SѓRјS–S”RјRѕ, S‰Rѕ RЎS‚R°R»S–RЅ S– R“S–S‚R»RµSЂ R±SѓR»Rё RgRIRѕRјR° RјRѕRЅSЃS‚SЂR°RјRё.

RђR»Rµ R±SѓRI RјRѕRјRµRЅS‚, RyeRѕR»Rё R»SЋRgRё RЅR° R—R°S…RѕRgS– SЃRїSЂRёR№RјR°R»Rё RЎS‚R°R»S–RЅR° SЏRye RїSЂRѕS‚RёRIR°RiSѓ R“S–S‚R»RµSЂSѓ, RѕSЃRѕR±R»RёRIRѕ Sѓ 1933 SЂRѕS†S–. R’RѕRЅRё RgSѓRјR°R»Rё, S‰Rѕ R“S–S‚R»RµSЂR° RјRѕR¶RЅR° RyeRѕRЅS‚SЂRѕR»SЋRIR°S‚Rё. RўRѕRgS– S†Rµ RїSЂRѕS‚RёSЃS‚R°RIR»RµRЅRЅSЏ RIRёRiR»SЏRgR°R»Rѕ SЂRµR°R»SЊRЅRёRј.

- RџRѕRIRµSЂS‚R°SЋS‡RёSЃSЊ RgRѕ R“RѕR»RѕRgRѕRјRѕSЂSѓ, S‚Rё RIRIR°R¶R°S”S€, S‰Rѕ RIR°SЂS‚Rѕ RIRёRyeRѕSЂRёSЃS‚RѕRISѓRIR°S‚Rё S‰RѕRgRѕ RЅSЊRѕRiRѕ S‚RµSЂRјS–RЅ "RiRµRЅRѕS†RёRg"?

- RўR°Rye, R±RµR·R·R°RїRµSЂRµS‡RЅRѕ. RџRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRёR№ SЋSЂRёSЃS‚ S”RISЂRµR№SЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ RїRѕS…RѕRgR¶RµRЅRЅSЏ R R°S„R°R» R›RµRјRyeS–RЅ, SЏRyeRёR№ R·R°RїSЂRѕRIR°RgRёRI S‚RµSЂRјS–RЅ "RiRµRЅRѕS†RёRg", RIRёRyeRѕSЂRёSЃS‚RѕRISѓRIR°RI R“RѕR»RѕRgRѕRјRѕSЂ SЏRye RyeR»R°SЃRёS‡RЅRёR№ RїSЂRёRyeR»R°Rg. RўRѕRgS– S†S–R»RµSЃRїSЂSЏRјRѕRIR°RЅRѕ RIR±RёR»Rё 5 RјS–R»SЊR№RѕRЅS–RI R»SЋRgRµR№ – S†Rµ RgSѓR¶Rµ RIRµR»RёRyeR° S‡R°SЃS‚RёRЅR° SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅS†S–RI.

RЎR°RјRµ SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅS†S– RIRёSЃS‚SѓRїR°R»Rё RїSЂRѕS‚Rё RyeRѕR»RµRyeS‚RёRIS–R·R°S†S–S—, SЃR°RјRµ RIRѕRЅRё R±RѕSЂRѕR»RёSЃSЏ R·R° SЃRIRѕSЋ SЃRIRѕR±RѕRgSѓ RїS–Rg S‡R°SЃ R RѕSЃS–R№SЃSЊRyeRѕS— SЂRµRIRѕR»SЋS†S–S— 1917 SЂRѕRyeSѓ. R† S†SЊRѕRiRѕ RњRѕSЃRyeRIR° RЅRµ R·R°R±SѓR»R° – RIRѕRЅR° S…RѕS‚S–R»R° R·SЂSѓR№RЅSѓRIR°S‚Rё SЃSѓS‚SЊ SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕS— RЅR°S†S–RѕRЅR°R»SЊRЅRѕS— S–RgRµRЅS‚RёS‡RЅRѕSЃS‚S–.

R©Rµ R·R° RyeS–R»SЊRyeR° SЂRѕRyeS–RI RgRѕ R“RѕR»RѕRgRѕRјRѕSЂSѓ R±S–R»SЊS€RѕRIRёRyeRё RIR±RёRIR°R»Rё SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRёS… R»S–RgRµSЂS–RI, RЅRёS‰RёR»Rё RyeSѓR»SЊS‚SѓSЂRЅS– S–RЅSЃS‚RёS‚SѓS†S–S—. R’RѕRЅRё R·R°RјS–RЅRёR»Rё SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeSѓ RјRѕRISѓ RЅR° SЂRѕSЃS–R№SЃSЊRyeSѓ RI S€RyeRѕR»R°S…. R SѓSЃRёS„S–RyeR°S†S–R№RЅR° RyeR°RјRїR°RЅS–SЏ R±SѓR»R° R°RiSЂRµSЃRёRIRЅRѕSЋ, RIR±RёRIS‡RѕSЋ, S– RIRѕRЅR° SЃS‚R°R»R° RїRµSЂRµRgSѓRјRѕRIRѕSЋ S‚SЂR°RiRµRgS–S— 1932-1933 SЂRѕRyeS–RI. R“RѕR»RѕRgRѕRјRѕSЂ R±SѓRI R°S‚R°RyeRѕSЋ RЅR° RЅR°S†S–RѕRЅR°R»SЊRЅSѓ S–RgRµRЅS‚RёS‡RЅS–SЃS‚SЊ.

RђRЅRgSЂRµR° RGR°R»SѓRїR°
RђRЅRgSЂRµR° RGR°R»SѓRїR°
R¤RѕS‚Rѕ: RGSЂRёSЃS‚RёRЅRё R—R°RЅRёRye / "RќR°S€Rµ SЃR»RѕRIRѕ"

- R¦S–RyeR°RIRѕ, SЏRye SЂRµR°RiSѓRIR°R»Rё R°RјRµSЂRёRyeR°RЅSЃSЊRyeS– RiR»SЏRgR°S‡S– (S„S–R»SЊRј SѓR¶Rµ RїRѕRyeR°R·R°R»Rё Sѓ RgRIRѕS… S€S‚R°S‚R°S… – SЂRµRg.), SЏRyeS– RЅS–RyeRѕR»Rё RЅRµ S‡SѓR»Rё RїSЂRѕ S†S– RїRѕRgS–S—.

- RЇ SЃRyeR°R¶Sѓ R· RїRѕR·RёS†S–S— R°RyeS‚RѕSЂS–RI. R”R¶RµR№RјSЃ RќRѕSЂS‚RѕRЅ, R’R°RЅRµSЃSЃR° RљS–SЂR±S–, RџS–S‚RµSЂ RЎS‚R°SЂSЃRiR°R°SЂRg – RIRѕRЅRё SЃRyeR°R·R°R»Rё "S‚R°Rye" SЃS†RµRЅR°SЂS–SЋ, R±Rѕ R±SѓR»Rё S€RѕRyeRѕRIR°RЅS–, S‰Rѕ SЂR°RЅS–S€Rµ RЅRµ S‡SѓR»Rё RїSЂRѕ S†RµR№ RiRµRЅRѕS†RёRg. R‘R°RiR°S‚Rѕ R· S‚RёS…, S…S‚Rѕ RїRѕRiRѕRgRёRISЃSЏ RIR·SЏS‚Rё SѓS‡R°SЃS‚SЊ Sѓ RїSЂRѕRµRyeS‚S–, R·SЂRѕR±RёR»Rё S†Rµ, S‰RѕR± RїRѕRyeR°R·R°S‚Rё RїSЂR°RIRgSѓ.

RќRѕSЂS‚RѕRЅ RiRѕRIRѕSЂRёRI: "R§RѕRјSѓ SЏ RЅRµ S‡SѓRI S†SЊRѕRiRѕ RI S€RyeRѕR»S–? RЇ RјSѓSЃRёRI R·RЅR°S‚Rё RїSЂRѕ S†Rµ SЂR°RЅS–S€Rµ!". RўRѕRјSѓ RјRµRЅS– R·RgR°S”S‚SЊSЃSЏ, S‰Rѕ R°RјRµSЂRёRyeR°RЅSЃSЊRyeRёR№ S– R±SЂRёS‚R°RЅSЃSЊRyeRёR№ RiR»SЏRgR°S‡ RїRѕRgSѓRјR°SЋS‚SЊ: S‡RѕRјSѓ SЏ RЅS–RyeRѕR»Rё RЅRµ S‡SѓRI/RЅRµ S‡SѓR»R° RїSЂRѕ S†Rµ?

R—R°SЂR°R· RI RђRјRµSЂRёS†S– SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅS†S– S– RїRѕR»SЏRyeRё RѕR±S”RgRЅR°R»RёSЃSЏ S‡RµSЂRµR· R°RiSЂRµSЃS–SЋ RљSЂRµRјR»SЏ. Rђ S‚RµRїRµSЂ S– R°RјRµSЂRёRyeR°RЅS†S– SЂR°RїS‚RѕRј RїRѕR±R°S‡RёR»Rё, S‰Rѕ R”RѕRЅR°R»SЊRg RўSЂR°RјRї SЃS‚R°RI RїSЂRµR·RёRgRµRЅS‚RѕRј R·R° SЃRїSЂRёSЏRЅRЅSЏ R RѕSЃS–S—. R’RѕRЅRё R±R°S‡R°S‚SЊ, S‰Rѕ RўSЂR°RјRї S– SЂRµSЃRїSѓR±R»S–RyeR°RЅS†S–, SЏRyeS– R№RѕRiRѕ RїS–RgS‚SЂRёRјSѓSЋS‚SЊ, R·R°R»RµR¶R°S‚SЊ RIS–Rg RyeSЂRµRјR»S–RISЃSЊRyeRѕS— RїSЂRѕRїR°RiR°RЅRgRё, RIRёRyeRѕSЂRёSЃS‚RѕRISѓSЋS‚SЊ S—S—, S‰RѕR± R°S‚R°RyeSѓRIR°S‚Rё RIRѕSЂRѕRiS–RI RЅRёRЅS–S€RЅSЊRѕRiRѕ RїSЂRµR·RёRgRµRЅS‚R° S– RgRµRјRѕRyeSЂR°S‚S–SЋ RI RЎRЁRђ.

RўRµRїRµSЂ R±S–R»SЊS€S–SЃS‚SЊ R°RјRµSЂRёRyeR°RЅS†S–RI S…RѕS‡Rµ S–RјRїS–S‡RјRµRЅS‚Sѓ RўSЂR°RјRїR°. RђRјRµSЂRёRyeR° RїRѕS‚SЂR°RїRёR»R° Sѓ "RyeR»SѓR± RѕR±SЂR°RЅS†S–RI", Sѓ SЏRyeRѕRјSѓ S” SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅS†S–, RїRѕR»SЏRyeRё, RїSЂRёR±R°R»S‚S–R№SЃSЊRyeS– RgRµSЂR¶R°RIRё S– S€RIRµRgRё – SѓSЃS– RIRѕRЅRё RїRѕSЃS‚SЂR°R¶RgR°R»Rё RIS–Rg SЂR°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRѕS— RїSЂRѕRїR°RiR°RЅRgRё.

R—R°SЂR°R·, RgRёRIR»SЏS‡RёSЃSЊ RјS–R№ S„S–R»SЊRј, R°RјRµSЂRёRyeR°RЅS†S– R±R°S‡R°S‚SЊ S‚Rµ, S‰Rѕ RIS–RgR±SѓRIR°S”S‚SЊSЃSЏ RI RЎRЁRђ. RЇ RЅS–RyeRѕR»Rё RЅRµ RgSѓRјR°R»R°, S‰Rѕ S†SЏ SЃS‚SЂS–S‡RyeR° – S–SЃS‚RѕSЂS–SЏ RјRѕRiRѕ RgS–RgSѓSЃSЏ – R±SѓRgRµ S‚R°Rye RgRѕR±SЂRµ R·SЂRѕR·SѓRјS–R»RѕSЋ RiSЂRѕRјR°RgSЏRЅR°Rј RЎRЁRђ.

- RўRё SЏRyeRѕSЃSЊ RgRѕR»SѓS‡R°S”S€SЃSЏ RgRѕ SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ R¶RёS‚S‚SЏ RI RЎRЁRђ?

- RЇ RgSѓRјR°SЋ, S‰Rѕ RђRјRµSЂRёRyeR° – RiRѕSЂRgR° RµRјS–RiSЂR°RЅSЃSЊRyeR° RyeSЂR°S—RЅR°, SЏRye S– RљR°RЅR°RgR°. R† SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅS†S– RђRјRµSЂRёRyeRё S‚R° RљR°RЅR°RgRё RiRѕSЂRgS– R±SѓS‚Rё SЃRѕR±RѕSЋ. RЈ RЅR°S€RёS… R±SѓRgRёRЅRyeR°S… S” S‚SЂR°RgRёS†S–R№RЅS– RIRёS€RёS‚S– SЃRѕSЂRѕS‡RyeRё, RЅR° R’RµR»RёRyeRgRµRЅSЊ RјRё RјR°S”RјRѕ RїRёSЃR°RЅRyeRё.

R’S–RgR·RЅR°S‡R°S”RјRѕ SЃRIRѕS— SЃRISЏS‚R°, R±R°RiR°S‚Rѕ R»SЋRgRµR№ RIS–RgRIS–RgSѓS” SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeS– S†RµSЂRyeRIRё. RњRё RiRѕS‚SѓS”RјRѕ RIR°SЂRµRЅRёRyeRё, R±RѕSЂS‰. RЇ S‡R°SЃS‚Rѕ RIR°SЂSЋ R±RѕSЂS‰ – RЅR° S†S–R»RёR№ S‚RёR¶RgRµRЅSЊ. RџRѕS‚S–Rј RgRѕRgR°SЋ SЃRјRµS‚R°RЅSѓ. R† RјRѕR¶Sѓ S—SЃS‚Rё R№RѕRiRѕ S‰RѕRgRЅSЏ.

R¦Rµ RIR°R¶R»RёRIRѕ – RїRёS€R°S‚RёSЃSЏ SЃRIRѕS—Rј RїRѕS…RѕRgR¶RµRЅRЅSЏRј. RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅR° RgR°S” SЃRIS–S‚Sѓ SЃS‚S–R»SЊRyeRё RЅR°RgS–S—. RџS–SЃR»SЏ SѓSЃS–S… SЃS‚SЂR°R¶RgR°RЅSЊ S—S— RјR°R»Rѕ R±Rё RIR¶Rµ RЅRµ S–SЃRЅSѓRIR°S‚Rё, R°R»Rµ RIRѕRЅR° RgRѕSЃS– S”. R‘Rѕ SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅS†S– SЃRёR»SЊRЅS– S– RyeSЂRµR°S‚RёRIRЅS– – RIRѕRЅRё RIRёR¶RёR»Rё S‚R° RЅRµ RIS‚SЂR°S‚RёR»Rё SЃRIRѕSЋ S–RgRµRЅS‚RёS‡RЅS–SЃS‚SЊ SѓRїSЂRѕRgRѕRIR¶ SЃS‚S–R»SЊRyeRѕS… SЃS‚RѕR»S–S‚SЊ.

RњRµRјRѕSЂS–R°R» R“RѕR»RѕRgRѕRјRѕSЂSѓ Sѓ R’R°S€RёRЅRiS‚RѕRЅS–, RЎRЁRђ
RњRµRјRѕSЂS–R°R» R“RѕR»RѕRgRѕRјRѕSЂSѓ Sѓ R’R°S€RёRЅRiS‚RѕRЅS–, RЎRЁRђ

RњRёS‚S†S– – R›RµSЃSЏ RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅRyeR°, R†RIR°RЅ R¤SЂR°RЅRyeRѕ, RўR°SЂR°SЃ RЁRµRIS‡RµRЅRyeRѕ – RgRѕR·RIRѕR»RёR»Rё RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅS– RIRёS‚SЂRёRјR°S‚Rё RЅR°RIS–S‚SЊ SЂRѕSЃS–R№SЃSЊRyeSѓ RѕRyeSѓRїR°S†S–SЋ. RўRѕRјSѓ SЏ RgSѓRјR°SЋ, S‰Rѕ RIRё RјR°S”S‚Rµ S‡RѕRјSѓ RЅR°RIS‡RёS‚Rё SЃRIS–S‚. RќR°RїSЂRёRyeR»R°Rg, SЃRIRѕS—RјRё SЂRµRIRѕR»SЋS†S–SЏRјRё RЅR° RњR°R№RgR°RЅS–.

- RњRё RIR¶Rµ R·RiR°RgR°R»Rё RїSЂRѕ R RµRIRѕR»SЋS†S–SЋ R“S–RgRЅRѕSЃS‚S–. RўRё SЃS‚RIRѕSЂRёR»R° RѕRЅR»R°R№RЅ-SЂSѓS… "R”S–RgR¶S–S‚R°R» RњR°R№RgR°RЅ" (RI RѕSЂRёRiS–RЅR°R»S– – "Digital Maidan"), SЏRyeRёR№ RїRѕSЃRїSЂRёSЏRI S‚RѕRјSѓ, S‰RѕR±Rё RїSЂRѕS‚RµSЃS‚Rё RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅS– 2013-2014 SЂRѕRyeS–RI SЃS‚R°R»Rё S‚RµRјRѕSЋ RЅRѕRјRµSЂ RѕRgRёRЅ Sѓ RўRIS–S‚S‚RµSЂS– RїRѕ RISЃSЊRѕRјSѓ SЃRIS–S‚Sѓ. RњRёRЅSѓR»Rѕ S€S–SЃS‚SЊ SЂRѕRyeS–RI RIS–Rg RїRѕS‡R°S‚RyeSѓ SЂRµRIRѕR»SЋS†S–S—.

RЇRye RgSѓRјR°S”S€, S‡Rё RјRѕR¶RЅR° RїRѕSЂS–RIRЅSЏS‚Rё RјRµS‚RѕRgRё RїSЂRѕRїR°RiR°RЅRgRё S– RјR°RЅS–RїSѓR»SЏS†S–S—, SЏRyeS– SЃSЊRѕRiRѕRgRЅS– RIRёRyeRѕSЂRёSЃS‚RѕRISѓS” R RѕSЃS–SЏ Sѓ RiS–R±SЂRёRgRЅS–R№ RIS–R№RЅS– RїSЂRѕS‚Rё RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅRё, S– S‚S– RјRµS‚RѕRgRё RїSЂRѕRїR°RiR°RЅRgRё, SЏRyeS– RIRёRyeRѕSЂRёSЃS‚RѕRISѓRIR°R»RёSЃSЏ RїS–Rg S‡R°SЃ R“RѕR»RѕRgRѕRјRѕSЂSѓ?

- RђR±SЃRѕR»SЋS‚RЅRѕ. R RѕSЃS–R№SЃSЊRyeR° RїSЂRѕRїR°RiR°RЅRgR° RЅRµ R±SѓR»R° SѓSЃRїS–S€RЅRѕSЋ, R°R»Rµ R·R°S…S–RgRЅR° RyeRѕSЂSѓRїS†S–SЏ RgRѕRїRѕRјRѕRiR»R° S—R№ S‚R°RyeRѕSЋ SЃS‚R°S‚Rё. R RѕSЃS–SЏ R·R°R»RµR¶RёS‚SЊ RIS–Rg R¶SѓSЂRЅR°R»S–SЃS‚RёRyeRё Sѓ R·R°S…S–RgRЅRёS… RyeSЂR°S—RЅR°S…. RќR°RїSЂRёRyeR»R°Rg, RiRѕRIRѕSЂSЏS‡Rё RїSЂRѕ RIS–R№RЅSѓ RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅS–, R°RјRµSЂRёRyeR°RЅSЃSЊRyeS– R¶SѓSЂRЅR°R»S–SЃS‚Rё RyeR°R¶SѓS‚SЊ RїSЂRѕ "RїSЂRѕSЂRѕSЃS–R№SЃSЊRyeRёS… RїRѕRISЃS‚R°RЅS†S–RI", Sѓ S‚RѕR№ S‡R°SЃ SЏRye RЅR°SЃRїSЂR°RIRgS– – S†Rµ SЂRѕSЃS–R№SЃSЊRyeS– SЃRѕR»RgR°S‚Rё.

R¦SЏ RIS–R№RЅR° – RIS–R№SЃSЊRyeRѕRIRёR№ RЅR°SЃS‚SѓRї RљSЂRµRјR»SЏ. R†, RЅR° R¶R°R»SЊ, R RѕSЃS–SЏ RgSѓR¶Rµ RgRѕR±SЂRµ R±SѓRgSѓS” SЃRIRѕSЋ RїSЂRѕRїR°RiR°RЅRgSѓ.

RќR°RїSЂRёRyeR»R°Rg, RЅR°R·RёRIR°SЋS‡Rё RIS‚RѕSЂRiRЅRµRЅRЅSЏ Sѓ RљSЂRёRј "SЂRµS„RµSЂRµRЅRgSѓRјRѕRј". R† S‚SѓS‚ R·R°S…S–RgRЅS– R¶SѓSЂRЅR°R»S–SЃS‚Rё S‚R°Rye SЃR°RјRѕ RIRёRyeRѕSЂRёSЃS‚RѕRISѓSЋS‚SЊ SЃR»RѕRIRѕSЃRїRѕR»SѓS‡RµRЅRЅSЏ "RyeSЂRёRјSЃSЊRyeRёR№ SЂRµS„RµSЂRµRЅRgSѓRј". R¦Rµ RЅRµ R±SѓRI SЂRµS„RµSЂRµRЅRgSѓRј, S†Rµ R±SѓR»Rѕ RIS–R№SЃSЊRyeRѕRIRµ R·R°S…RѕRїR»RµRЅRЅSЏ RIR»R°RgRё. R›SЋRgRµR№ RIR±RёRIR°R»Rё, RIRёRyeSЂR°RgR°R»Rё S– RyeR°S‚SѓRIR°R»Rё. R¦Rµ R±SѓR»Rѕ RIS‚RѕSЂRiRЅRµRЅRЅSЏ.

- R’RїRµSЂS€Rµ S‚Rё RїSЂRёS—S…R°R»R° RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅSѓ Sѓ 2005 SЂRѕS†S–. RЇRyeS– R±SѓR»Rё RISЂR°R¶RµRЅRЅSЏ?

- RЇ RѕRgSЂR°R·Sѓ R·R°RyeRѕS…R°R»R°SЃSЏ RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅSѓ S– RI S‚R°RјS‚RµS€RЅS–S… R»SЋRgRµR№. RЇ RїRѕS‡SѓRIR°R»R°SЃSЏ SЏRye SѓRgRѕRјR°. R¦Rµ R±SѓR»R° RЅR°R№RyeSЂR°S‰R° RyeSЂR°S—RЅR° RgR»SЏ RјRµRЅRµ. RњRµRЅS– RЅR°RIS–S‚SЊ SЃRЅRёRISЃSЏ RyeSЂR°SЃRёRIRёR№ SЃRѕRЅ, S‰Rѕ SЏ RїRѕS‚SЂR°RїRёR»R° RI RѕR±S–R№RјRё R‘RѕRiR°.

- RЈ SЏRyeRёS… RјS–SЃS‚R°S… S‚Rё R±SѓR»R°?

- RЇ R¶RёR»R° RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅS– 5 RјS–SЃSЏS†S–RI. RЎRїRѕS‡R°S‚RyeSѓ SЏ RїRѕS—S…R°R»R° RgRѕ R›SЊRIRѕRIR°, RIRµR·SѓS‡Rё R· SЃRѕR±RѕSЋ RјRµRјSѓR°SЂRё RgS–RgSѓSЃSЏ. RќR° S‚RѕR№ RјRѕRјRµRЅS‚ R№RѕRiRѕ RIR¶Rµ RЅRµ R±SѓR»Rѕ SЃRµSЂRµRg R¶RёRIRёS…; RgRѕ SЃRјRµSЂS‚S– RIS–RЅ SѓSЃS‚RёRi RѕRїRёSЃR°S‚Rё S–SЃS‚RѕSЂS–SЋ RISЃSЊRѕRiRѕ SЃRIRѕRiRѕ R¶RёS‚S‚SЏ, S†Rµ R±SѓRI SЂSѓRyeRѕRїRёSЃ SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕSЋ RјRѕRIRѕSЋ.

R’S–RЅ RїRµSЂRµR¶RёRI S‚Rµ, S‰Rѕ R”R¶RѕSЂRgR¶ RћSЂRIRµR»R» R·RѕR±SЂR°R·RёRI Sѓ "RљRѕR»RiRѕSЃRїS– S‚RIR°SЂRёRЅ". RњS–R№ RgS–RgSѓSЃSЊ R±R°S‡RёRI R RѕSЃS–R№SЃSЊRyeSѓ SЂRµRIRѕR»SЋS†S–SЋ, S‰Rµ RyeRѕR»Rё R±SѓRI RјR°R»RµRЅSЊRyeRёRј S…R»RѕRїS‡RёRyeRѕRј. R®RЅR°RyeRѕRј RIS–RЅ RїRµSЂRµR¶RёRI R“RѕR»RѕRgRѕRјRѕSЂ, R° RїS–Rg S‡R°SЃ SЃS‚R°R»S–RЅSЃSЊRyeRёS… SЂRµRїSЂRµSЃS–R№ R±SѓRI RјRѕR»RѕRgRёRј R±R°S‚SЊRyeRѕRј.

R’S–RЅ RIS‚S–Rye R· RЎR RЎR  RїS–SЃR»SЏ R”SЂSѓRiRѕS— SЃRIS–S‚RѕRIRѕS— RIS–R№RЅRё. R”S–RgSѓSЃSЊ R·R°R»RёS€RёRI RјRµRЅS– S†S– RјRµRјSѓR°SЂRё, S– SЏ RїRѕS—S…R°R»R° RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅSѓ, R·RЅR°R№S€R»R° RїRµSЂRµRyeR»R°RgR°S‡R°, S‰RѕR±Rё RISЃRµ R·SЂRѕR·SѓRјS–S‚Rё.

RћR±RyeR»R°RgRёRЅRyeR° RїRµSЂS€RѕRiRѕ RIRёRgR°RЅRЅSЏ RyeRЅRёR¶RyeRё R”R¶. RћSЂRIRµR»R»R°.
RћR±RyeR»R°RgRёRЅRyeR° RїRµSЂS€RѕRiRѕ RIRёRgR°RЅRЅSЏ RyeRЅRёR¶RyeRё R”R¶. RћSЂRIRµR»R»R°. "RљRѕR»RiRѕSЃRї S‚RIR°SЂRёRЅ" — S†Rµ RїSЂRёS‚S‡R°, R°R»RµRiRѕSЂS–SЏ RЅR° SЂRµRIRѕR»SЋS†S–SЋ 1917 SЂRѕRyeSѓ S– RЅR°SЃS‚SѓRїRЅS– RїRѕRgS–S— RI RЎR RЎR  RїS–Rg S‡R°SЃ SЃS‚R°RЅRѕRIR»RµRЅRЅSЏ S‚R° S–SЃRЅSѓRIR°RЅRЅSЏ RµRїRѕS…Rё SЃS‚R°R»S–RЅS–R·RјSѓ RїRµSЂRµRg R”SЂSѓRiRѕSЋ SЃRIS–S‚RѕRIRѕSЋ RIS–R№RЅRѕSЋ

RџRѕS‚S–Rј SЏ RїRѕS—S…R°R»R° RgRѕ RљRёS”RIR°. RЇ RgSѓR¶Rµ SЂR°RgR°, S‰Rѕ R¶RёR»R° S‚R°Rј. RџS–R·RЅS–S€Rµ SЏ RїSЂRёS—S…R°R»R° R·RЅRѕRISѓ, S‡RµSЂRµR· RyeS–R»SЊRyeR° SЂRѕRyeS–RI, RyeRѕR»Rё RјRё SЂRѕR±RёR»Rё S„S–R»SЊRј. RљRѕR¶RЅRѕRiRѕ SЂR°R·Sѓ, RyeRѕR»Rё SЏ RїRѕRIRµSЂS‚R°SЋSЃSЏ S‚SѓRgRё, RљRёS—RI R·RјS–RЅSЋS”S‚SЊSЃSЏ; S‚RµRїRµSЂ RIS–RЅ SЃS…RѕR¶RёR№ RЅR° R‘SЂSѓRyeR»S–RЅ.

RљRѕR»RёSЃSЊ SѓSЃRµ R±SѓR»Rѕ RїRѕ-S–RЅS€RѕRјSѓ, S‚SЂRѕS…Rё Sѓ SЂR°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRѕRјSѓ RgSѓSЃS–, RѕR±SЃR»SѓRiRѕRISѓRIR°RЅRЅSЏ RЅRµ R·R°RIR¶RgRё R±SѓR»Rѕ SЏRyeS–SЃRЅRёRј. Rђ S‚RµRїRµSЂ RїSЂRёS…RѕRgRёS€ RI RyeR°S„Rµ, RѕS„S–S†S–R°RЅS‚RyeR° – RїSЂRёRIS–S‚RЅR° RgS–RIS‡RёRЅR° (R· S‚R°S‚Sѓ RЅR° RISЃSЋ S€RёSЋ), RјRѕRgRЅR° S—R¶R°, S…S–RїSЃS‚RµSЂRё.

RЇ S‰R°SЃR»RёRIR°, S‰Rѕ RIS–RgS‡SѓR»R° S†SЋ R·RјS–RЅSѓ, SЃRїSЂR°RIRgS– RїRёS€R°SЋSЃSЏ S‚RёRј, S‰Rѕ RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅR° "RIS–RgR±SѓR»R°SЃSЏ". RљRѕR»Rё RgSЂSѓR·S– RїRѕSЃR°RgRёR»Rё RјRµRЅRµ RI S‚R°RyeSЃS– RgRѕ R°RµSЂRѕRїRѕSЂS‚Sѓ, R±SѓR»Rѕ RgSѓR¶Rµ SЃSѓRјRЅRѕ.

- Rђ S‡RѕRјSѓ S‚Rё RїRѕS—S…R°R»R° R· RљRёS”RIR°?

- R’S–RЅ R±SѓRI R·R°RgRѕSЂRѕRiRёRј RgR»SЏ RјRµRЅRµ (SЃRјS–S”S‚SЊSЃSЏ). RЇ R±SѓR»R° RјRѕR»RѕRgRѕSЋ RgS–RIS‡RёRЅRѕSЋ, RїRѕS‡RёRЅR°R»R° SЃRIRѕSЋ RyeR°SЂS”SЂSѓ. RўRѕRgS– RIRёRiR»SЏRgR°R»Rѕ, S‰Rѕ RќSЊSЋ-R™RѕSЂRye RїSЂRѕSЃS‚S–S€RёR№ RgR»SЏ S‚R°RyeRѕS— RјRµS‚Rё. RЇ RgSѓR¶Rµ S…RѕS‚S–R»R° RyeSѓRїRёS‚Rё RyeRIR°SЂS‚RёSЂSѓ S– RgSѓRјR°R»R°: Rѕ, S†Rµ R¶ RјR°S” R±SѓS‚Rё R»RµRiRyeRѕ, S†Rµ R¶ RyeSЂR°S—RЅR°, SЏRyeR° SЂRѕR·RIRёRIR°S”S‚SЊSЃSЏ. RђR»Rµ RЅS–, S†Rµ R±SѓR»Rѕ RЅRµRјRѕR¶R»RёRIRѕ.

- RўRё S‚R°RyeRѕR¶ RgRѕSЃR»S–RgR¶SѓRIR°R»R° S–SЃS‚RѕSЂS–SЋ RїRµSЂS€RѕRiRѕ SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ RїRµSЂRµRyeR»R°RgSѓ RїRѕRIS–SЃS‚S–-R°RЅS‚RёSѓS‚RѕRїS–S— "RљRѕR»RiRѕSЃRї S‚RIR°SЂRёRЅ" (R°RЅRiR». "Animal Farm") R”R¶RѕSЂRgR¶R° RћSЂRIRµR»R»R°. R’RѕRЅR° RgSѓR¶Rµ S†S–RyeR°RIR° S– S‚R°RyeRѕR¶ RїRѕRISЏR·R°RЅR° R· S‚R°R±RѕSЂRѕRј RgR»SЏ R±S–R¶RµRЅS†S–RI, Sѓ SЏRyeRѕRјSѓ RїRµSЂRµR±SѓRIR°R»Rё S‚RIRѕS— RgS–RgSѓSЃSЊ S– R±R°R±SѓSЃSЏ. R”R»SЏ S‚RёS… R»SЋRgRµR№ RyeRЅRёRiR°, RјR°R±SѓS‚SЊ, R±SѓR»R° RѕSЃRѕR±R»RёRIRѕSЋ?

- RўR°Rye, RIRѕRЅRё RѕS‚SЂRёRјR°R»Rё SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRёR№ RїRµSЂRµRyeR»R°Rg "RљRѕR»RiRѕSЃRїSѓ S‚RIR°SЂRёRЅ" Sѓ S‚R°R±RѕSЂS– S– RIS–RgSЂR°R·Sѓ R·SЂRѕR·SѓRјS–R»Rё, S‰Rѕ S†SЏ RyeRЅRёRiR° – RїSЂRѕ R R°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRёR№ RЎRѕSЋR·. R¦Rµ R±SѓRI RЅRµ R»RёS€Rµ RїRµSЂS€RёR№ RїRµSЂRµRyeR»R°Rg RїRѕRIS–SЃS‚S– SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕSЋ, R°R»Rµ R№ SѓR·R°RiR°R»S– RїRµSЂS€RёR№ RїRµSЂRµRyeR»R°Rg "RљRѕR»RiRѕSЃRїSѓ S‚RIR°SЂRёRЅ" S–RЅRѕR·RµRјRЅRѕSЋ RјRѕRIRѕSЋ. R† R·SЂRѕR±RёRI R№RѕRiRѕ RјRѕR»RѕRgRёR№ SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅRµS†SЊ, S‚R°RyeRѕR¶ R±S–R¶RµRЅRµS†SЊ – R†RiRѕSЂ RЁRµRIS‡RµRЅRyeRѕ (RїS–Rg RїSЃRµRIRgRѕRЅS–RјRѕRј R†RIR°RЅ R§RµSЂRЅSЏS‚RёRЅSЃSЊRyeRёR№ – SЂRµRg.).

RЈ RЅSЊRѕRiRѕ RgSѓR¶Rµ S†S–RyeR°RIR° RѕSЃRѕR±RёSЃS‚R° S–SЃS‚RѕSЂS–SЏ, RїS–R·RЅS–S€Rµ RIS–RЅ SЃS‚R°RI SЃRїS–RIR·R°SЃRЅRѕRIRЅRёRyeRѕRј RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ RЅR°SѓRyeRѕRIRѕRiRѕ S–RЅSЃS‚RёS‚SѓS‚Sѓ R“R°SЂRIR°SЂRgSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ SѓRЅS–RIRµSЂSЃRёS‚RµS‚Sѓ. Rђ RїRµSЂRµRyeR»R°Rg RyeRЅRёRiRё RћSЂRIRµR»R» RѕRїR»R°S‚RёRI SЃR°RјRѕSЃS‚S–R№RЅRѕ.

RџS–Rg S‡R°SЃ RЅR°RIS‡R°RЅRЅSЏ Sѓ R“R°SЂRIR°SЂRgSЃSЊRyeRѕRјSѓ SѓRЅS–RIRµSЂSЃRёS‚RµS‚S– SЏ S‡RёS‚R°R»R° S–RЅS‚RµSЂRISЋ R· RЁRµRIS‡RµRЅRyeRѕRј S– S‚Rµ, S‰Rѕ RїSЂRѕ RЅSЊRѕRiRѕ RiRѕRIRѕSЂRёR»Rё. RљR°R·R°R»Rё, S‰Rѕ RIS–RЅ SЏRye "RїSЂRёR±SѓR»RµS†SЊ R· S–RЅS€RѕS— RїR»R°RЅRµS‚Rё" – S‚R°RyeRёRј R±SѓRI SЂRѕR·SѓRјRЅRёRј, RIRѕR»RѕRgS–RI 19 RјRѕRIR°RјRё. R’S–RЅ RїSЂRѕRIRѕRgRёRI RgRѕSЃR»S–RgR¶RµRЅRЅSЏ S– RIRёSЏRIRёRI, S‰Rѕ RљRёS—RISЃSЊRyeR° R SѓSЃSЊ R±SѓR»R° R·RЅR°S‡RЅRѕ RIRїR»RёRIRѕRIS–S€RѕSЋ, RЅS–R¶ RIRIR°R¶R°R»RѕSЃSЏ SЂR°RЅS–S€Rµ.

R†RiRѕSЂ RЁRµRIS‡RµRЅRyeRѕ RIRёSЂRѕSЃS‚R°RI Sѓ R’R°SЂS€R°RIS–, R№RѕRiRѕ R±R°S‚SЊRyeRё RїS–RgS‚SЂRёRјSѓRIR°R»Rё RgS–SЏR»SЊRЅS–SЃS‚SЊ RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕS— RќR°SЂRѕRgRЅRѕS— R RµSЃRїSѓR±R»S–RyeRё. RљRѕR»Rё RїRѕS‡R°R»R°SЃSЏ RIS–R№RЅR°, RIS–RЅ RїRµSЂRµS—S…R°RI RЅR° R—R°S…S–Rg, RѕRїRёRЅRёRISЃSЏ Sѓ RњSЋRЅS…RµRЅS–.

R†RiRѕSЂ RЁRµRIS‡RµRЅRyeRѕ
R†RiRѕSЂ RЁRµRIS‡RµRЅRyeRѕ

R©RѕR±Rё RIRёR¶RёS‚Rё, RїRёSЃR°RI SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕ-R°RЅRiR»S–R№SЃSЊRyeS– SЃR»RѕRIRЅRёRyeRё S– RgR°RIR°RI S—S… R±S–R¶RµRЅS†SЏRј RI RѕR±RјS–RЅ RЅR° S—R¶Sѓ. RўR°RyeRѕR¶ RIS–RЅ RїRµSЂRµRyeR»R°RgR°RI S†S–RyeR°RIS– SЃS‚R°S‚S‚S– R· R»RѕRЅRgRѕRЅSЃSЊRyeRёS… RiR°R·RµS‚ RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRѕSЋ RјRѕRIRѕSЋ S– S‚R°RyeRёRј S‡RёRЅRѕRј RЅR°S‚SЂR°RїRёRI RЅR° RћSЂRIRµR»R»R° (SЏRyeRёR№ RgRѕRїRёSЃSѓRIR°RI Sѓ "Tribune" – SЂRµRg.).

R”Rѕ RIRёRgR°RЅRЅSЏ "RљRѕR»RiRѕSЃRїSѓ S‚RIR°SЂRёRЅ" SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅS†S– R·SЂRѕR±RёR»Rё RgSѓR¶Rµ RyeSЂR°SЃRёRISѓ RѕR±RyeR»R°RgRёRЅRyeSѓ. RњRѕR»RѕRgRёR№ R±S–R¶RµRЅRµS†SЊ, SЏRyeRёR№ S—S— RЅR°RјR°R»SЋRIR°RI, RїRѕS‚S–Rј SЃS‚R°RI S–R»SЋSЃS‚SЂR°S‚RѕSЂRѕRј Sѓ "The Washington Post". RўRѕR±S‚Rѕ RISЃS– R»SЋRgRё, SЏRyeS– R±SѓR»Rё R·R°R»SѓS‡RµRЅS– RgRѕ SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ RїRµSЂRµRyeR»R°RgSѓ S‚RIRѕSЂSѓ RћSЂRIRµR»R»R° Sѓ S‚R°R±RѕSЂS–, RїS–R·RЅS–S€Rµ SЂRѕR±RёR»Rё RIRµR»RёRyeS– SЃRїSЂR°RIRё RI RђRјRµSЂRёS†S–.

- Rђ S‚RIRѕS— SЂRѕRgRёS‡S–, SЏRyeS– R±SѓR»Rё Sѓ S‚R°R±RѕSЂS–, RїR°RјSЏS‚R°SЋS‚SЊ S‰RѕSЃSЊ RїSЂRѕ S†RµR№ RїRµSЂRµRyeR»R°Rg?

- RўR°Rye. R‘S–R»SЊS€Rµ S‚RѕRiRѕ, RїS–R·RЅS–S€Rµ SЏ RIRёRїR°RgRyeRѕRIRѕ RgRѕRIS–RgR°R»R°SЃSЏ RIS–Rg SЃRIRѕRiRѕ RgSЏRgSЊRyeR°, S‰Rѕ RIS–RЅ RјR°S” S†SЋ RyeRЅRёRiSѓ RgRѕSЃS– – RїSЂRёRIS–R· S—S— RI RђRјRµSЂRёRyeSѓ. RGRѕS‡R° RIRѕRЅRё RЅRµ RјRѕRiR»Rё RIR·SЏS‚Rё R· SЃRѕR±RѕSЋ R±R°RiR°S‚Rѕ SЂRµS‡RµR№, S†SЏ RyeRЅRёR¶RyeR° RјR°R»R° RgR»SЏ RЅSЊRѕRiRѕ RIRµR»RёRyeRµ R·RЅR°S‡RµRЅRЅSЏ.

- R§Rё R“R°SЂRµS‚ R”R¶RѕRЅSЃ S‚R° R”R¶RѕSЂRgR¶ RћSЂRIRµR»R» S– SЃRїSЂR°RIRgS– R±SѓR»Rё R·RЅR°R№RѕRјS–?

- R©Rѕ RјRё R·RЅR°S”RјRѕ S‚RѕS‡RЅRѕ – S†Rµ S‚Rµ, S‰Rѕ RI RЅRёS… R±SѓRI RѕRgRёRЅ R»S–S‚RµSЂR°S‚SѓSЂRЅRёR№ R°RiRµRЅS‚. R—RЅR°S”S€, S‡RµSЂRµR· SЃRIRѕRiRѕ R»S–S‚RµSЂR°S‚SѓSЂRЅRѕRiRѕ R°RiRµRЅS‚R° SЏ S‚R°RyeRѕR¶ R·RЅR°R№RѕRјR»SЋSЃSЏ R· R»SЋRgSЊRјRё. R”R¶RѕRЅSЃ S– RћSЂRIRµR»R» S‚RѕRIR°SЂRёS€SѓRIR°R»Rё R· S–RЅS€RёRј R±SЂRёS‚R°RЅSЃSЊRyeRёRј R¶SѓSЂRЅR°R»S–SЃS‚RѕRј, SЏRyeRёR№ RїRёSЃR°RI RїSЂRѕ RiRѕR»RѕRg – RњR°R»RyeRѕR»SЊRјRѕRј RњR°RiRiRµSЂS–RgR¶RѕRј.

R’RѕRЅRё R±SѓR»Rё R· RѕRgRЅRѕRiRѕ RїRѕRyeRѕR»S–RЅRЅSЏ, RѕR±RµSЂS‚R°R»RёSЃSЏ RI S‚RёS… SЃR°RјRёS… RyeRѕR»R°S…. RћSЂRIRµR»R» R±SѓRI RI RyeSѓSЂSЃS– S‚RѕRiRѕ, S‰Rѕ RIS–RgR±SѓRIR°R»RѕSЃSЏ. RњRё R·RЅR°S”RјRѕ S‚RѕS‡RЅRѕ, S‰Rѕ RIS–RЅ RїSЂRѕS‡RёS‚R°RI R±R»RёSЃRyeSѓS‡S– RјRµRјSѓR°SЂRё R®RgR¶RёRЅR° R›R°R№RѕRЅSЃR° "R’S–RgSЂSЏRgR¶RµRЅRЅSЏ RgRѕ RЈS‚RѕRїS–S—" ("Assignment in Utopia"), RgRµ R·RiR°RgSѓS”S‚SЊSЃSЏ RiRѕR»RѕRg.

RўR°Rј S” S†S–R»RёR№ SЂRѕR·RgS–R», S‰Rѕ RѕRїRёSЃSѓS”, SЏRye Sѓ RњRѕSЃRyeRIS– R¶SѓSЂRЅR°R»S–SЃS‚Rё SЂR°R·RѕRј RїRёS€SѓS‚SЊ SЃS‚R°S‚S‚S– RI RiR°R·RµS‚Rё, RЅR°R·RёRIR°SЋS‡Rё R“R°SЂRµS‚R° R”R¶RѕRЅSЃR° R±SЂRµS…SѓRЅRѕRј. RћSЂRIRµR»R» RЅR°RїRёSЃR°RI SЂRµS†RµRЅR·S–SЋ RЅR° S†SЋ RyeRЅRёRiSѓ.

- RЇRye S‚Rё RїRѕR·RЅR°R№RѕRјRёR»R°SЃSЏ R· RђT‘RЅS”S€RyeRѕSЋ R“RѕR»R»R°RЅRg?

- R§RµSЂRµR· SЃRѕS†S–R°R»SЊRЅS– RјRµSЂRµR¶S–, R·RѕRyeSЂRµRјR° S‡RµSЂRµR· RїSЂRѕRµRyeS‚ "R”S–RgR¶S–S‚R°R» RњR°R№RgR°RЅ", SЏ RїRѕR·RЅR°R№RѕRјRёR»R°SЃSЏ R· S–SЃS‚RѕSЂRёRyeRѕRј RўS–RјRѕS‚S– RЎRЅR°R№RgRµSЂRѕRј, R° RIS–RЅ R·RЅR°RI RђT‘RЅS”S€RyeSѓ.

RџS–SЃR»SЏ RњR°R№RgR°RЅSѓ RIRѕRЅRё RјR°R»Rё Sѓ RљRёS”RIS– RyeRѕRЅS„RµSЂRµRЅS†S–SЋ. RЇ RЅR°RїRёSЃR°R»R° R№RѕRјSѓ S– RїRѕRїSЂRѕSЃRёR»R° R°RgSЂRµSЃSѓ S—S— RµR»RµRyeS‚SЂRѕRЅRЅRѕS— RїRѕS€S‚Rё. RќR°RgS–SЃR»R°R»R° SЃRIS–R№ SЃS†RµRЅR°SЂS–R№, S– RIRѕRЅR° RѕRgSЂR°R·Sѓ RIS–RgRїRѕRIS–R»R° "S‚R°Rye". RњRѕS— R·RЅR°R№RѕRјS– RyeR°R·R°R»Rё: RЅRµ SЂRѕR·SЂR°S…RѕRISѓR№ RЅR° S†Rµ. RђR»Rµ SЏ SЂRѕR±RёR»R° SЃRIRѕS”.

RђT‘RЅS”S€RyeR° R“RѕR»R»R°RЅRg
RђT‘RЅS”S€RyeR° R“RѕR»R»R°RЅRg

- R† SЏRye S–R· RЅRµSЋ RїSЂR°S†SЋRIR°R»RѕSЃSЏ?

- Rћ, S„RµRЅRѕRјRµRЅR°R»SЊRЅRѕ. RџS–Rg S‡R°SЃ RїRµSЂS€RѕS— R·SѓSЃS‚SЂS–S‡S– RIRѕRЅR° SЃRyeR°R·R°R»R° RјRµRЅS–: "R¦Rµ RgSѓR¶Rµ RIR°R¶R»RёRIRѕ – R·RЅS–RјR°S‚Rё S„S–R»SЊRј RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅS–". R’RѕRЅR° R·R°RIR¶RgRё RIS–RgS€S‚RѕRIS…SѓRIR°R»R°SЃSЏ RIS–Rg RѕSЃRѕR±RёSЃS‚RѕS— S–SЃS‚RѕSЂS–S—, R° S—S— RIR»R°SЃRЅR° R±S–RѕRiSЂR°S„S–SЏ – RЅRµR№RјRѕRIS–SЂRЅR°.

RђT‘RЅS”S€RyeR° RIRёSЂRѕSЃS‚R°R»R° Sѓ SЃRѕS†S–R°R»S–SЃS‚RёS‡RЅS–R№ RџRѕR»SЊS‰S–. R‡S— R±R°S‚SЊRyeRё R±SѓR»Rё R¶SѓSЂRЅR°R»S–SЃS‚R°RјRё. R‘R°S‚SЊRyeRѕ RїRѕRјRµSЂ – R·R° RѕS„S–S†S–R№RЅRѕSЋ RIRµSЂSЃS–S”SЋ – RIS‡RёRЅRёRIS€Rё SЃR°RјRѕRiSѓR±SЃS‚RIRѕ. R¦Rµ SЃS‚R°R»RѕSЃSЏ RїS–SЃR»SЏ RgRѕRїRёS‚S–RI RїRѕR»S–S†S–S—.

RљRѕR»Rё RIRѕRЅR°, RјRѕR»RѕRgR° R¶S–RЅRyeR°, RїRѕS—S…R°R»R° RIS‡RёS‚RёSЃSЏ Sѓ RyeS–RЅRѕS€RyeRѕR»Sѓ RI RџSЂR°R·S–, Sѓ R§RµS…S–SЋ SѓRIS–R№S€R»Rё SЂRѕSЃS–R№SЃSЊRyeS– RIS–R№SЃSЊRyeR°. R—R° SЃRIS–R№ R°RyeS‚RёRIS–R·Rј RђT‘RЅS”S€RyeR° SЃRёRgS–R»R° Sѓ RISЏR·RЅRёS†S–. RџS–R·RЅS–S€Rµ Sѓ R R°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRѕRјSѓ RЎRѕSЋR·S– S—S— R°SЂRµS€S‚RѕRISѓRIR°R»Rё R»RёS€Rµ R·R° S‚Rµ, S‰Rѕ RIRѕRЅR° SЂRѕR±RёR»R° S„RѕS‚RѕRiSЂR°S„S–S—. RўRѕR±S‚Rѕ RIRѕRЅR° R¶RёR»R° Sѓ SЂR°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeS–R№ SЂRµRїSЂRµSЃRёRIRЅS–R№ SЂRµR°R»SЊRЅRѕSЃS‚S–.

RљRѕR»Rё RјRё RїSЂR°S†SЋRIR°R»Rё RЅR°Rg SЃS†RµRЅR°SЂS–S”Rј, RђT‘RЅS”S€RyeR° RїRѕSЂR°RgRёR»R°: R·SЂRѕR±Rё SЃRѕR»RgR°S‚R° RI SЃRµR»S– S‚SЂRѕS…Rё SЂRѕR·RiSѓR±R»RµRЅRёRј; S‚RѕRgS– Sѓ RџSЂR°R·S– SЂR°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeS– SЃRѕR»RgR°S‚Rё RЅRµ RјR°R»Rё SѓSЏRIR»RµRЅRЅSЏ, RgRµ RIRѕRЅRё, S†Rµ RјRё S—Rј SЃRyeR°R·R°R»Rё. R’RѕRЅRё R±SѓR»Rё SЂRѕR·RiSѓR±R»RµRЅS–.

R† S‚Rµ R¶ SЃR°RјRµ S‚SЂR°RїRёR»RѕSЃSЏ RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅS–: SЂRѕSЃS–R№SЃSЊRyeS– SЃRѕR»RgR°S‚Rё, SЏRyeS– RIS–RgR±SѓRIR°R»Rё SЃRIRѕSЋ SЃR»SѓR¶R±Sѓ, SЃR°RјS– RЅRµ R·RЅR°R»Rё, RgRµ RѕRїRёRЅRёR»RёSЃSЏ. R RµRїSЂRµSЃS–S— RїRѕRIS‚RѕSЂRёR»RёSЃSЏ R· S‚S–S”SЋ SЃR°RјRѕSЋ R¶RѕSЂSЃS‚RѕRyeS–SЃS‚SЋ. RўRѕR¶ R±R°RiR°S‚Rѕ R· RѕSЃRѕR±RёSЃS‚RѕRiRѕ RgRѕSЃRIS–RgSѓ RђT‘RЅS”S€RyeRё R“RѕR»R»R°RЅRg RїRѕS‚SЂR°RїRёR»Rѕ RgRѕ SЃS†RµRЅ S„S–R»SЊRјSѓ.

- RЇRye RIRё RїSЂRёR№S€R»Rё RgRѕ SЂS–S€RµRЅRЅSЏ RїRѕRyeR°R·R°S‚Rё R“RѕR»RѕRgRѕRјRѕSЂ S‡RµSЂRµR· S‚R°Rye R·RIR°RЅS– "S–SЃS‚RѕSЂS–S— RїSЂRѕSЃS‚RёS… R»SЋRgRµR№" – RЅRµ S‡RµSЂRµR· RјR°SЃRѕRIS–SЃS‚SЊ, R° S‡RµSЂRµR· RyeS–R»SЊRyeR° RѕR±SЂR°R·S–RI?

- R¦Rµ RgSѓR¶Rµ RiR°SЂRЅRµ R·R°RїRёS‚R°RЅRЅSЏ. RњRё RЅRµ RјRѕR¶RµRјRѕ RїRµSЂRµRgR°S‚Rё RISЃSЊRѕRiRѕ R¶R°S…Sѓ S‚RёS… RїRѕRgS–R№. RњRё RїRѕRyeR°R·R°R»Rё R»RёS€Rµ RѕRyeSЂRµRјRёS… R»SЋRgRµR№, S‰RѕR±Rё RјRѕR¶RЅR° R±SѓR»Rѕ R·SЂRѕR·SѓRјS–S‚Rё, RЅR°SЃRyeS–R»SЊRyeRё R¶RѕSЂSЃS‚RѕRyeRѕ S†Rµ R±SѓR»Rѕ.

RЇ RgSѓRјR°SЋ, S‰Rѕ RЅR°Rј RIRgR°R»RѕSЃSЏ RїRµSЂRµRgR°S‚Rё R¶R°S…S–S‚S‚SЏ, R°R»Rµ RјRё RЅRµ SЂRѕR±RёR»Rё S†SЊRѕRiRѕ S‚R°Rye RgRѕRIRiRѕ, S‰RѕR± R»SЋRgRё RЅRµ RјRѕRiR»Rё RIRёS‚SЂRёRјR°S‚Rё. R“R»SЏRgR°S‡ R±R°S‡RёS‚SЊ R»RёS€Rµ S„SЂR°RiRјRµRЅS‚Rё, S– RјRѕR¶Rµ SѓSЏRIRёS‚Rё, SЏRye RIRёRiR»SЏRgR°R»R° S†S–R»R° S–SЃS‚RѕSЂS–SЏ.

R‘R°RiR°S‚Rѕ SЃS†RµRЅ R±SѓR»Rѕ R·SЂRѕR±R»RµRЅRѕ RI SЃS‚RёR»S– RђR»SЊS„SЂRµRgR° RGS–S‡RyeRѕRyeR°. RЎS‚RIRѕSЂSЋSЋS‡Rё SЃS†RµRЅSѓ RIR±RёRISЃS‚RIR°, RIS–RЅ RїRѕRyeR°R·SѓS” RїS–SЃS‚RѕR»RµS‚, RЅS–R¶, R° RЅRµ R·RЅS–RIRµS‡RµRЅRµ S‚S–R»Rѕ. R’S–RЅ RїRѕRyeR°R·SѓS” RiR»SЏRgR°S‡Sѓ RgRµS‚R°R»S–, S‰RѕR±Rё S‚RѕR№ R·SЂRѕR·SѓRјS–RI R·R°RgSѓRј.

 

RђRЅRgSЂRµR° RGR°R»SѓRїR°
RђRЅRgSЂRµR° RGR°R»SѓRїR°
R¤RѕS‚Rѕ: RGSЂRёSЃS‚RёRЅRё R—R°RЅRёRye / "RќR°S€Rµ SЃR»RѕRIRѕ"

- R§Rё R±R°RiR°S‚Rѕ R·RјS–RЅSЋRIR°R»RѕSЃSЏ RI SЃS†RµRЅR°SЂS–S— Sѓ RїSЂRѕS†RµSЃS– R·R№RѕRјRѕRye?

- RўR°Rye, SЏ R·SЂRѕR±RёR»R° RyeS–R»SЊRyeR° RIRµSЂSЃS–R№, S‚RѕRјSѓ S‰Rѕ S–SЃS‚RѕSЂS–SЏ SЃR°RјR° RїRѕ SЃRѕR±S– S†S–RyeR°RIR°, R±SѓR»Rѕ RgSѓR¶Rµ R±R°RiR°S‚Rѕ RiRµSЂRѕS—RI R· SЂRµR°R»SЊRЅRѕRiRѕ R¶RёS‚S‚SЏ, S‡RµSЂRµR· RїSЂRёR·RјSѓ SЏRyeRёS… RјRѕR¶RЅR° SЂRѕR·RїRѕRIS–SЃS‚Rё S†SЋ S–SЃS‚RѕSЂS–SЋ. RЇ S…RѕS‚S–R»R° RїRѕRyeR°R·R°S‚Rё S—S— S‡RµSЂRµR· SЂRѕR·RїRѕRIS–RgSЊ RїSЂRѕ RiSЂSѓRїSѓ S‡RѕR»RѕRIS–RyeS–RI – R·R°S…S–RgRЅRёS… SЂRµRїRѕSЂS‚RµSЂS–RI Sѓ RњRѕSЃRyeRIS–, S– S—S…RЅS” RѕSЃRѕR±RёSЃS‚Rµ SЃRїSЂRёR№RЅSЏS‚S‚SЏ.

R§RёSЏ S†Rµ S–SЃS‚RѕSЂS–SЏ? RЇRye RћSЂRIRµR»R» RїSЂR°S†SЋRIR°RI RЅR°Rg SЃRIRѕS”SЋ RyeRЅRёRiRѕSЋ? R’ RѕRgRЅRѕRјSѓ R· RIR°SЂS–R°RЅS‚S–RI SЃS†RµRЅR°SЂS–SЋ R±SѓR»R° RЅR°RIS–S‚SЊ RgSЂSѓR¶RёRЅR° RћSЂRIRµR»R»R°, SЏ RgSѓRјR°SЋ, S‰Rѕ RI R¶RёS‚S‚S– RIRѕRЅR° R±SѓR»R° RЅRµR№RјRѕRIS–SЂRЅRѕSЋ. RћSЃRyeS–R»SЊRyeRё S†SЏ S–SЃS‚RѕSЂS–SЏ – S‚R°RyeR° RIRµR»RёRyeR° S‚R° R·R°S…RѕRїR»RёRIR°, RIRїRѕRIRЅS– RїRѕRyeR°R·R°S‚Rё S—S— R±SѓR»Rѕ RgSѓR¶Rµ RIR°R¶RyeRѕ.

R† RѕSЃSЊ S‰Rѕ SЃS‚R°R»RѕSЃSЏ – SЏ R·SЂRѕR±RёR»R° SЃS†RµRЅR°SЂS–R№ RЅR°SЃS‚S–R»SЊRyeRё RїSЂRѕSЃS‚RёRј, RЅR°SЃRyeS–R»SЊRyeRё S†Rµ R±SѓR»Rѕ RјRѕR¶R»RёRIRѕ. R† S‡RёRј RїSЂRѕSЃS‚S–S€RёRј SЏ R№RѕRiRѕ SЂRѕR±RёR»R° – S‚RёRј R±S–R»SЊS€ S–SЃS‚RѕSЂRёS‡RЅRёRј RIS–RЅ SЃS‚R°RIR°RI.

R“R°SЂRµS‚ RїSЂR°S†SЋRIR°RI Sѓ R›RѕRЅRgRѕRЅS–, RїRѕS‚S–Rј RIS–RЅ RїRѕS—S…R°RI Sѓ RњRѕSЃRyeRISѓ. R’S–RЅ RIRёRyeRѕSЂRёSЃS‚R°RI SЃRIRѕS— "RyeSЂSѓS‚S–" R·RISЏR·RyeRё R· RyeRѕR»RёS€RЅS–Rј RїSЂRµRјS”SЂ-RјS–RЅS–SЃS‚SЂRѕRј, S‰RѕR±Rё RїRµSЂRµRyeRѕRЅR°S‚Rё SЂR°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeSѓ RIR»R°RgSѓ, S‰Rѕ R№RѕRјSѓ RјRѕR¶RЅR° RїRѕS—S…R°S‚Rё RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅSѓ, RyeSѓRgRё RЅS–S…S‚Rѕ RЅRµ RјS–Ri RgS–SЃS‚R°S‚RёSЃSЏ.

R’S–RЅ RIS‚S–Rye RїS–Rg S‡R°SЃ RїRѕS—R·RgRyeRё, RїRѕR±R°S‡RёRI SЃRµR»R°, R»SЋRgRµR№. RџS–R·RЅS–S€Rµ SЂRѕR·RїRѕRIS–RI RїSЂRѕ S†Rµ RЅR° RїSЂRµSЃ-RyeRѕRЅS„RµSЂRµRЅS†S–S—. RЈSЃS– S†S– RјRѕRјRµRЅS‚Rё – S†Rµ RїSЂR°RIRgR°. RќR°RIS–S‚SЊ RiRµSЂRѕS—RЅSЏ, SЏRyeSѓ R·S–RiSЂR°R»R° R’R°RЅRµSЃSЃR° RљS–SЂR±S–, – SЂRµR°R»SЊRЅR°, SЃRїSЂR°RIRgS– R±SѓR»R° RјRѕR»RѕRgR° R¶S–RЅRyeR°, SЏRyeR° RїSЂR°S†SЋRIR°R»R° RЅR° R’RѕR»S‚RµSЂR° R”SЋSЂR°RЅS‚S– R№ RїRѕS‚S–Rј R·R°R»RёS€RёR»R° S†SЋ SЂRѕR±RѕS‚Sѓ.

- R§Rё R±SѓR»R° SЏRyeR°SЃSЊ SЂRµR°RyeS†S–SЏ RЅR° S„S–R»SЊRј R· R±RѕRyeSѓ R RѕSЃS–S—?

- R‘SѓR»Rё SЂRѕSЃS–R№SЃSЊRyeS– RgRёSЃS‚SЂRёR±SЋS‚RѕSЂRё, SЏRyeS– R·SѓSЃS‚SЂS–S‡R°R»RёSЃSЏ R· RЅR°S€RёRјRё R°RiRµRЅS‚R°RјRё R· RїSЂRѕRgR°R¶Sѓ, S†S–RyeR°RIRёR»RёSЃSЏ RїSЂRѕRµRyeS‚RѕRј, R°R»Rµ RIRѕRЅRё SЃRyeR°R·R°R»Rё: RјRё RЅRµ R·RјRѕR¶RµRјRѕ RyeSѓRїRёS‚Rё S†RµR№ S„S–R»SЊRј RgR»SЏ SЂRѕSЃS–R№SЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ SЂRёRЅRyeSѓ. RђR»Rµ RIS–RЅ S—S… SЃRїSЂR°RIRgS– R·R°S†S–RyeR°RIRёRI.

R† S‰Rµ RјRё RјR°R»Rё RѕRgRЅSѓ RgRёRIRЅSѓ RїSЂRѕRїRѕR·RёS†S–SЋ RIS–Rg SЂRѕSЃS–R№SЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ RyeS–RЅRѕS„RµSЃS‚RёRIR°R»SЋ RI R›RѕRЅRgRѕRЅS–. R’RѕRЅRё RїRѕRIS–RgRѕRјRёR»Rё, S‰Rѕ RIRyeR»SЋS‡RёR»Rё RI SЃRIRѕSЋ RїSЂRѕRiSЂR°RјSѓ RїRѕRyeR°R· S„S–R»SЊRјSѓ RI R RѕSЃS–S— Sѓ 2020 SЂRѕS†S–.

- RќR°Rg SЏRyeRёRј RїSЂRѕRµRyeS‚RѕRј S‚Rё RїSЂR°S†SЋS”S€ R·R°SЂR°R·?

- R‘R°S‚SЊRyeRѕ RјRѕRiRѕ S‡RѕR»RѕRIS–RyeR° R±SЂR°RI SѓS‡R°SЃS‚SЊ Sѓ SЃS‚SѓRgRµRЅS‚SЃSЊRyeRѕRјSѓ RїRѕRISЃS‚R°RЅRЅS– RI R SѓRјSѓRЅS–S— Sѓ 1956 SЂRѕS†S–. RќR° S†Rµ S—S… RЅR°RgRёS…RЅSѓR»Rѕ SѓRiRѕSЂSЃSЊRyeRµ RїRѕRISЃS‚R°RЅRЅSЏ 1956 SЂRѕRyeSѓ, SЏRyeRµ SЂRѕR·RїRѕS‡R°R»RѕSЃSЏ RјR°SЂS€RµRј SЃS‚SѓRgRµRЅS‚S–RI S‚R° S–RЅS‚RµR»S–RiRµRЅS†S–S— Sѓ R‘SѓRgR°RїRµS€S‚S– (RїSЂRёRgSѓS€RµRЅRµ SЂR°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRёRјRё RIS–R№SЃSЊRyeR°RјRё – SЂRµRg.).

RђR»Rµ SѓS‡R°SЃRЅRёRyeS–RI R°SЂRµS€S‚SѓRIR°R»Rё, S– R±R°S‚SЊRyeRѕ RјRѕRiRѕ S‡RѕR»RѕRIS–RyeR° RIS–RgSЃRёRgS–RI 6 SЂRѕRyeS–RI, SЃS‚R°RIS€Rё R»S–RgRµSЂRѕRј-RїRѕRISЃS‚R°RЅS†RµRј Sѓ RISЏR·RЅRёS†S–. RЇ R±Rё S…RѕS‚S–R»R° SЂRѕR·RїRѕRIS–SЃS‚Rё RїSЂRѕ RЅSЊRѕRiRѕ. RЇ RїSЂR°RiRЅSѓ RїRѕRyeR°R·R°S‚Rё, S‰Rѕ R±SЂRµS…RЅSЏ R R°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ RЎRѕSЋR·Sѓ R±SѓR»R° RIRµR»RёS‡RµR·RЅRѕSЋ. R„ RgSѓR¶Rµ R±R°RiR°S‚Rѕ S‚R°RyeRёS… S–SЃS‚RѕSЂS–R№.

- RњRё R·R°SЂR°R· SЃRїS–R»RyeSѓS”RјRѕSЃSЊ R°RЅRiR»S–R№SЃSЊRyeRѕSЋ, R°R»Rµ SЏ R·RЅR°SЋ, S‰Rѕ S‚Rё S‚R°RyeRѕR¶ RiRѕRIRѕSЂRёS€ SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕSЋ. R”Rµ S‚Rё S—S— RIRёRIS‡RёR»R°? R’S–Rg R±R°S‚SЊRyeS–RI?

- RњRѕS— R±R°S‚SЊRyeRё S‚SЂRѕS…Rё RIS‡RёR»Rё RјRµRЅRµ SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕS—, R°R»Rµ RЅRµRgRѕSЃS‚R°S‚RЅSЊRѕ. RЇ RyeSЂR°S‰Rµ RIRёRIS‡RёR»R° S—S— Sѓ R“R°SЂRIR°SЂRgS– – RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕRјSѓ RgRѕSЃR»S–RgRЅRёS†SЊRyeRѕRјSѓ S–RЅSЃS‚RёS‚SѓS‚S–. RџS–SЃR»SЏ S‚RѕRiRѕ SЏ RgRѕSЃRёS‚SЊ RЅRµRїRѕRiR°RЅRѕ RiRѕRIRѕSЂRёR»R° SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕSЋ.

RЇRye RIS–RgR±SѓRIR°R»RёSЃSЏ RїR°SЂR»R°RјRµRЅS‚SЃSЊRyeS– RIRёR±RѕSЂRё RI R“R°R»RёS‡RёRЅS– 100 SЂRѕRyeS–RI S‚RѕRјSѓ?

R’RёR±RѕSЂS‡RёR№ RyeRѕRgRµRyeSЃ, SЏRyeRёR№ RїRѕS‡R°RI RgS–SЏS‚Rё RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅS– R· RїRѕS‡R°S‚RyeSѓ 2020 SЂRѕRyeSѓ, SЃSѓS‚S‚S”RIRѕ R·RјS–RЅSЋS” RїSЂRёRЅS†RёRї RiRѕR»RѕSЃSѓRIR°RЅRЅSЏ, RїRµSЂRµRIRµRgRµRЅRЅSЏ RiRѕR»RѕSЃS–RI Sѓ RјR°RЅRgR°S‚Rё, RЅR°SЂS–R·RyeSѓ RѕRyeSЂSѓRiS–RI, S‰Rѕ, R·RIS–SЃRЅRѕ, RЅRµ RѕRјRёRЅRµ S– R›SЊRIS–RIS‰RёRЅSѓ. R¦Rµ RIRёRyeR»RёRyeR°S” RїRµRIRЅS– S–SЃS‚RѕSЂRёS‡RЅS– RїR°SЂR°R»RµR»S– R· 1907 SЂRѕRyeRѕRј, RyeRѕR»Rё RI RђRISЃS‚SЂRѕ-RЈRiRѕSЂS‰RёRЅS– RIS–RgR±SѓR»R°SЃSЏ RIRёR±RѕSЂS‡R° SЂRµS„RѕSЂRјR°, SЏRyeR° SЃSѓS‚S‚S”RIRѕ R·RјS–RЅRёR»R° RїSЂR°RIRёR»R° RIRёR±RѕSЂS–RI Sѓ R“R°R»RёS‡RёRЅS–. RўRѕRgS– RIRёRyeRѕSЂRёSЃS‚RѕRISѓRIR°R»R°SЃSЏ RIRёRyeR»SЋS‡RЅRѕ RјR°R¶RѕSЂRёS‚R°SЂRЅR° RIRёR±RѕSЂS‡R° SЃRёSЃS‚RµRјR°, SЏRyeR° RIS–RgS‚RµRїRµSЂ RЅRµ RIRёRyeRѕSЂRёSЃS‚RѕRISѓS”S‚SЊSЃSЏ RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅS– RїS–Rg S‡R°SЃ RїR°SЂR»R°RјRµRЅS‚SЃSЊRyeRёS… S– RјS–SЃS†RµRIRёS… RIRёR±SЂS–RI RgRѕ SЂR°Rg S–R· RyeS–R»SЊRyeS–SЃS‚SЋ RIRёR±RѕSЂS†S–RI R±S–R»SЊS€Rµ SЏRye 90 S‚RёSЃSЏS‡ RѕSЃS–R±

RђRyeSѓR»R° RїRµSЂR° Sѓ RїS–RgRїS–R»R»S–. R”Rѕ RgRЅSЏ RЅR°SЂRѕRgR¶RµRЅRЅSЏ RџRµS‚SЂR° R¤RµRgSѓRЅR°-"RџRѕR»S‚R°RIRё"

RќR° RїRѕS€SѓRye S– R»S–RyeRIS–RgR°S†S–SЋ RѕRgRЅS–S”S— R»SЋRgRёRЅRё Sѓ 1951 SЂRѕS†S– V«SЃRѕRIS”S‚RёV» RyeRёRЅSѓR»Rё 4 574 RѕS„S–S†RµSЂS–RI S– SЃRѕR»RgR°S‚S–RI, S–R· RЅRёS… vЂ“ 60 S–RЅSЃS‚SЂSѓRyeS‚RѕSЂS–RI S–R· 110 SЃR»SѓR¶R±RѕRIRѕ-SЂRѕR·S€SѓRyeRѕRIRёRјRё SЃRѕR±R°RyeR°RјRё, 500 RyeSѓSЂSЃR°RЅS‚S–RI RЅR°RIS‡R°R»SЊRЅRѕRiRѕ R·R°RiRѕRЅSѓ RњR“R‘, 230 R°RIS‚RѕRјR°S€RёRЅ. RљRёRј R±SѓRI R»RµRiRµRЅRgR°SЂRЅRёR№ V«RџRѕR»S‚R°RIR°V», S‰Rѕ RЅR° R№RѕRiRѕ RїRѕS€SѓRyeRё SЃRїRѕSЂSЏRgRёR»Rё RyeS–R»SЊRyeR° RїRѕR»RyeS–RI S‡RµRyeS–SЃS‚S–RI?

R“RѕRgRёRЅR° RїR°RїSѓRiRё. R”S–S‚Rё RїRёS€SѓS‚SЊ RЎS‚R°R»S–RЅSѓ

R§R°RїSЃSЊRyeRёR№ S‡SѓRI, SЏRye S‚SѓS‚ RyeR°R¶SѓS‚SЊ: "RўRѕ S‡RѕSЂS‚ RgRѕSЂRѕRiRѕSЋ S–RgRµ". RќS–R±RёS‚Rѕ, SЏRyeS‰Rѕ RyeRёRЅSѓS‚Rё Sѓ RIRёS…RѕSЂ SЃRѕRyeRёSЂRѕSЋ vЂ” RїRѕS‚RµS‡Rµ RyeSЂRѕRI. R”RёRIRЅS– S‚SѓS‚ R·R°R±RѕR±RѕRЅRё. RЈS‡RѕSЂR° S‚S– "S‡RѕSЂS‚Rё" RIRёR»RёSЃSЏ RїRѕRїS–Rg RЅRѕRiR°RјRё S– RїRµSЂRµR±S–RiR°R»Rё RgRѕSЂRѕRiSѓ R·R±SѓRgR¶RµRЅRёRј S– SѓSЃRјS–S…RЅRµRЅRёRј RyeRѕR»RµRiR°Rј R§R°RїSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ. R’S–RЅ R·R°R·RgSЂRёRI S‰R°SЃS‚SЋ RyeRѕR»RµRi, SЏRyeS– RIR¶Rµ RїS–S€R»Rё R·R° RyeRѕR»SЋS‡RёR№ RgSЂS–S‚ S– S‚R°R±S–SЂRЅS– RјSѓSЂRё Sѓ RgR°R»RµRyeRёR№, S€RёSЂRѕRyeRёR№ SЃRIS–S‚.

R‘SЂR°S‚Rё RЁRµRїS‚RёS†SЊRyeS– S– S”RISЂRµR№SЃSЊRyeRёR№ RЅR°SЂRѕRg. R§R°SЃS‚RёRЅR° R†

RћRgRЅRёRј S–R· RIR°RiRѕRјRёS… RµRїS–R·RѕRgS–RI Sѓ R¶RёS‚S‚S”RїRёSЃS– RњRёS‚SЂRѕRїRѕR»RёS‚R° RђRЅRgSЂRµSЏ RЁRµRїS‚RёS†SЊRyeRѕRiRѕ, SЏRye S– RI R¶RёS‚S‚S”RїRёSЃS– R№RѕRiRѕ RјRѕR»RѕRgS€RѕRiRѕ R±SЂR°S‚R° R±R». SЃRIS‰RјS‡. RљR»RёRјRµRЅS‚S–SЏ vЂ” RџSЂR°RIRµRgRЅRёRyeR° RќR°SЂRѕRgS–RI RЎRIS–S‚Sѓ, S” S—S…RЅSЏ SѓS‡R°SЃS‚SЊ Sѓ RїRѕSЂSЏS‚SѓRЅRyeSѓ RiR°R»RёS†SЊRyeRёS… S”RISЂRµS—RI Sѓ S‡R°SЃRё R“RѕR»RѕRyeRѕSЃS‚Sѓ. R‘S–R»SЊS€S–SЃS‚SЊ S–RЅS„RѕSЂRјR°S†S–S— S‡RµSЂRїR°S”RјRѕ R·S– SЃRїRѕRiR°RgS–RI RѕS‡RµRIRёRgS†S–RI, RџRѕSЂSЏS‚SѓRЅRѕRye S”RISЂRµS—RI vЂ” SЃRїS–R»SЊRЅR° SЃRїSЂR°RIR° R±SЂR°S‚S–RI, SЏRye S– RgS–SЏR»SЊRЅS–SЃS‚SЊ, SЃRїSЂSЏRјRѕRIR°RЅR° RЅR° RїRѕRiR°S€RµRЅRЅSЏ R°RЅS‚RёSЃRµRјS–S‚SЃSЊRyeRёS… RЅR°SЃS‚SЂRѕS—RI Sѓ S‚RѕRgS–S€RЅSЊRѕRјSѓ SЃSѓSЃRїS–R»SЊSЃS‚RIS–, S…RѕS‡R° R±S–R»SЊS€S–SЃS‚SЊ RgRѕRyeSѓRјRµRЅS‚S–RI RїS–RgRїRёSЃR°RЅR° SЃR°RјRёRј RњRёS‚SЂRѕRїRѕR»RёS‚RѕRј. RџR°SЂR°RgRѕRyeSЃ Sѓ S‚RѕRјSѓ, S‰Rѕ Rѕ. RљR»RёRјRµRЅS‚S–R№ RЁRµRїS‚RёS†SЊRyeRёR№ R±SѓRI RIRёR·RЅR°RЅRёR№ V«RџSЂR°RIRµRgRЅRёRyeRѕRј RЅR°SЂRѕRgS–RI SЃRIS–S‚SѓV» R·R° RїRѕSЂSЏS‚SѓRЅRѕRye S”RISЂRµS—RI Sѓ S‡R°SЃRё R“RѕR»RѕRyeRѕSЃS‚Sѓ, RЅR°S‚RѕRјS–SЃS‚SЊ R·R°SЃR»SѓRiR°Rј RњRёS‚SЂRѕRїRѕR»RёS‚R° RђRЅRgSЂRµSЏ Sѓ S‚R°RyeRѕRјSѓ RIRёR·RЅR°RЅRЅS– R±SѓR»Rѕ RIS–RgRјRѕRIR»RµRЅRѕ.