RћR»SЏ R“RЅR°S‚SЋRye: vЂњRџR°RјvЂ™SЏS‚R°S‚Rё RїSЂRѕ RјRёRЅSѓR»Rµ, R°R»Rµ RgSѓRјR°S‚Rё RїSЂRѕ RјR°R№R±SѓS‚RЅS”vЂќ

RЎR°Rј RјRµS‚R°S„RѕSЂRёS‡RЅRёR№ RIRёSЃR»S–RI vЂњR°RgRIRѕRyeR°S‚ RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅRёvЂќ RјRµRЅS– RЅS–RyeRѕR»Rё RЅRµ RїRѕRgRѕR±R°RISЃSЏ. RљRѕR»Rё R№RgRµS‚SЊSЃSЏ RїSЂRѕ SЂRµS‡RЅRёRyeR° S–RЅS‚RµSЂRµSЃS–RI, S‚Rѕ RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅR° RјR°R»R° R± SЃR°RјR° S—S… RїSЂRµRgSЃS‚R°RIR»SЏS‚Rё. RћRgRЅRµ RЅRµ RїS–RgR»SЏRiR°S” SЃSѓRјRЅS–RISѓ, S‰Rѕ RјS–R¶ RџRѕR»SЊS‰RµSЋ S‚R° RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅRѕSЋ SЃRyeR»R°R»RёSЃSЏ RѕSЃRѕR±R»RёRIRѕ RgSЂSѓR¶RЅS– RIS–RgRЅRѕSЃRёRЅRё, S‰Rѕ R±SѓR»R° RїS–RgS‚SЂRёRјRyeR°, S–RЅRѕRgS– RЅR°RIS–S‚SЊ RїS–RgS‚SЂRёRјRyeR° R±RµR·R·R°SЃS‚RµSЂRµR¶RЅR°, RgRѕ SЏRyeRѕS— SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeS– RїRѕR»S–S‚RёRyeRё R·RIRёRyeR»Rё SЏRye RgRѕ S‡RѕRiRѕSЃSЊ SЃR°RјRѕRѕS‡RµRIRёRgRЅRѕRiRѕ.

R— RgRѕR·RIRѕR»Sѓ SЂRµRgR°RyeS†S–S— R¶SѓSЂRЅR°R»Sѓ “R›RѕRyeR°R»SЊRЅR° S–SЃS‚RѕSЂS–SЏ” RїRµSЂRµRgSЂSѓRyeRѕRISѓS”RјRѕ S–RЅS‚RµSЂRISЋ R· RїR°RЅS– RђR»RµRyeSЃR°RЅRgSЂRѕSЋ (RћR»RµSЋ) R“RЅR°S‚SЋRye – SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅS–SЃS‚RyeRѕSЋ, RїRёSЃSЊRјRµRЅRЅRёS†RµSЋ, RїSЂRѕS„RµSЃRѕSЂRѕRј R’R°SЂS€R°RISЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ SѓRЅS–RIRµSЂSЃRёS‚RµS‚Sѓ S‚R° RљRёS”RIRѕ-RњRѕRiRёR»SЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRѕS— R°RyeR°RgRµRјS–S— RїSЂRѕ RyeR»S–RЅS‡ SЃSѓS‡R°SЃRЅRёS… RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRѕ-SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRёS… RIS–RgRЅRѕSЃRёRЅ, RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeS– R·RјR°RiR°RЅRЅSЏ “S…S‚Rѕ RyeSЂR°S‰RёR№ RїR°S‚SЂS–RѕS‚” S‚R° SЃSѓRјRЅS–RIRё S‰RѕRgRѕ S„RѕSЂRјR»Rё “RїSЂRѕS‰R°S”RјRѕ S– RїSЂRѕSЃRёRјRѕ RїSЂRѕS‰RµRЅRЅSЏ”.

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– RџR°RЅS– RћR»SЋ, RgRѕ 2015 SЂRѕRyeSѓ RџRѕR»SЊS‰Sѓ Sѓ R„RISЂRѕRїS– RЅR°R·RёRIR°R»Rё “R°RgRIRѕRyeR°S‚RѕRј RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅRё”. RЎSЊRѕRiRѕRgRЅS– SЃRїRѕSЃS‚RµSЂS–RiR°S”RјRѕ RIS–RgRIRµSЂS‚Rѕ RЅR°RїSЂSѓR¶RµRЅS– RIS–RgRЅRѕSЃRёRЅRё R°R¶ RgRѕ R·R°R±RѕSЂRѕRЅ RI’S—R·RgSѓ SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRёRј RїRѕSЃR°RgRѕRIS†SЏRј. RЈ S‡RѕRјSѓ, RЅR° R’R°S€Sѓ RgSѓRјRyeSѓ, RЅR°R№RiRѕR»RѕRIRЅS–S€R° RїSЂRёS‡RёRЅR° S‚R°RyeRёS… SЃS‚SЂS–RјRyeRёS… R·RјS–RЅ RI SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕ-RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRёS… RIS–RgRЅRѕSЃRёRЅR°S…?

– RЎR°Rј RјRµS‚R°S„RѕSЂRёS‡RЅRёR№ RIRёSЃR»S–RI “R°RgRIRѕRyeR°S‚ RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅRё” RјRµRЅS– RЅS–RyeRѕR»Rё RЅRµ RїRѕRgRѕR±R°RISЃSЏ. RљRѕR»Rё R№RgRµS‚SЊSЃSЏ RїSЂRѕ SЂRµS‡RЅRёRyeR° S–RЅS‚RµSЂRµSЃS–RI, S‚Rѕ RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅR° RјR°R»R° R± SЃR°RјR° S—S… RїSЂRµRgSЃS‚R°RIR»SЏS‚Rё. RћRgRЅRµ RЅRµ RїS–RgR»SЏRiR°S” SЃSѓRјRЅS–RISѓ, S‰Rѕ RјS–R¶ RџRѕR»SЊS‰RµSЋ S‚R° RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅRѕSЋ SЃRyeR»R°R»RёSЃSЏ RѕSЃRѕR±R»RёRIRѕ RgSЂSѓR¶RЅS– RIS–RgRЅRѕSЃRёRЅRё, S‰Rѕ R±SѓR»R° RїS–RgS‚SЂRёRјRyeR°, S–RЅRѕRgS– RЅR°RIS–S‚SЊ RїS–RgS‚SЂRёRјRyeR° R±RµR·R·R°SЃS‚RµSЂRµR¶RЅR°, RgRѕ SЏRyeRѕS— SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeS– RїRѕR»S–S‚RёRyeRё R·RIRёRyeR»Rё SЏRye RgRѕ S‡RѕRiRѕSЃSЊ SЃR°RјRѕRѕS‡RµRIRёRgRЅRѕRiRѕ. RќR°S‚RѕRјS–SЃS‚SЊ RyeRѕR»Rё R№RgRµS‚SЊSЃSЏ RїSЂRѕ RїRѕS€RёSЂRµRЅRµ RїRµSЂRµRyeRѕRЅR°RЅRЅSЏ, S‰Rѕ RїRµSЂRµR»RѕRјRЅRёRј R±SѓRI 2015 SЂS–Rye, S‚Rѕ, RЅR° RјS–R№ RїRѕRiR»SЏRg, S†Rµ RЅRµ S‚R°Rye.

RЎRёS‚SѓR°S†S–SЏ RЅRµ R·RјS–RЅRёR»R°SЃSЏ R»RёS€Rµ RїS–SЃR»SЏ S‚RѕRiRѕ, SЏRye RgRѕ RIR»R°RgRё Sѓ RџRѕR»SЊS‰S– RїSЂRёR№S€R»R° RїR°SЂS‚S–SЏ “RџSЂR°RIRѕ S– SЃRїSЂR°RIRµRgR»RёRIS–SЃS‚SЊ”. R’SЃRµ SЃS‚R°R»RѕSЃSЏ SЂR°RЅS–S€Rµ – 2010 SЂRѕRyeSѓ. R† RїSЂRѕR±R»RµRјR° RI S‚RѕRјSѓ, S‰Rѕ S†SЊRѕRiRѕ RЅRµ S…RѕS‚S–R»Rё R·R°SѓRIR°R¶RёS‚Rё RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅS–. RўRѕRgS– RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅS– R·RјS–RЅRёR»R°SЃSЏ RIR»R°RgR°, S– R±SѓRgSЊ-SЏRyeSѓ RyeSЂRёS‚RёRyeSѓ RїRѕRїRµSЂRµRgRЅS–S… R»S–RgRµSЂS–RI – R’S–RyeS‚RѕSЂR° R®S‰RµRЅRyeR° S– S‚R°R±RѕSЂSѓ “RїRѕRјR°SЂR°RЅS‡RµRIRёS…”, SЃRїSЂRёR№RјR°R»Rё SЏRye SѓRgR°SЂ Sѓ SЃRїRёRЅSѓ, R±Rѕ RјRё, R±R°S‡S‚Rµ, RїS–Rg RѕRyeSѓRїR°S†S–R№RЅRёRј SЂRµR¶RёRјRѕRј RЇRЅSѓRyeRѕRIRёS‡R°. RќR° RїRѕS‡R°S‚RyeSѓ 2010-RiRѕ R±SѓRI RѕRiRѕR»RѕS€RµRЅRёR№ SѓRyeR°R· RџSЂRµR·RёRgRµRЅS‚R° R®S‰RµRЅRyeR° RїSЂRѕ RIRёR·RЅR°RЅRЅSЏ RЎS‚RµRїR°RЅR° R‘R°RЅRgRµSЂRё RiRµSЂRѕS”Rј RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅRё. RЈRyeR°R· RѕRgSЂR°R·Sѓ RIRёRyeR»RёRyeR°RI SЂS–R·RyeS– SЂRµR°RyeS†S–S—.

RџRµSЂS€RёRјRё R·SЂRµR°RiSѓRIR°R»Rё SЂRѕSЃS–R№SЃSЊRyeS– RѕS„S–S†S–R№RЅS– RyeRѕR»R°. RљS–R»SЊRyeR° RgRЅS–RI RїS–SЃR»SЏ SѓRyeR°R·Sѓ RџRµSЂS€RёR№ RyeR°RЅR°R» SЂRѕSЃS–R№SЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ S‚RµR»RµR±R°S‡RµRЅRЅSЏ RїRѕRyeR°R·R°RI S„S–R»SЊRј “RћSЂR°RЅR¶RµRIS‹Rµ RgRµS‚Rё RўSЂRµS‚SЊRµRiRѕ SЂRµR№S…R°”, SЏRyeRёR№ S†SЊRyeSѓRIR°RI RIRµSЃSЊ S‚R°R±S–SЂ “RїRѕRјR°SЂR°RЅS‡RµRIRёS…” S– R’S–RyeS‚RѕSЂR° R®S‰RµRЅRyeR° S‚R° R№RѕRiRѕ RgSЂSѓR¶RёRЅSѓ R·RѕRyeSЂRµRјR°. RўR°RyeRёR№ RїS–RIS‚RѕSЂR°RiRѕRgRёRЅRЅRёR№ S„S–R»SЊRј, R·RIS–SЃRЅRѕ, RЅRµ SЂRѕR±RёS‚SЊSЃSЏ R·R° RїS–RIS‚RѕSЂR° RgRЅSЏ, SЏRye S– RїSЂRѕRiSЂR°RјSѓ RЅR° RџRµSЂS€RѕRјSѓ RyeR°RЅR°R»S– SЃRyeR»R°RgR°SЋS‚SЊ R·R°R·RgR°R»RµRiS–RgSЊ.

RЇ RЅRµ RјR°SЋ SЃSѓRјRЅS–RIS–RI, S‰Rѕ SЂRѕSЃS–SЏRЅRё R·R°RIS‡R°SЃRЅRѕ RѕS‚SЂRёRјR°R»Rё S–RЅS„RѕSЂRјR°S†S–SЋ RїSЂRѕ RЅR°RјS–SЂ RїSЂRёR№RЅSЏS‚Rё S†RµR№ SѓRyeR°R·. RўR°RyeRёRј S‡RёRЅRѕRј RIRѕRЅRё RI RѕSЃS‚R°RЅRЅS–R№ RјRѕRјRµRЅS‚ RїRѕRIRїR»RёRIR°R»Rё RЅR° RIRёR±RѕSЂRё. R§RёRј RyeRµSЂSѓRIR°RISЃSЏ RџSЂRµR·RёRgRµRЅS‚ R®S‰RµRЅRyeRѕ RїSЂRёR№RјR°SЋS‡Rё S†RµR№ SѓRyeR°R·, – RјRµRЅS– RIR°R¶RyeRѕ SЃRyeR°R·R°S‚Rё, S…RѕS‡ SЏ S‡SѓR»R° SЂS–R·RЅS– RїRѕSЏSЃRЅRµRЅRЅSЏ.

 
R¤RѕS‚Rѕ: R°R»S–RЅR° RїR°RЅRyeRѕRIR°

RќR° SѓRyeR°R· R·SЂRµR°RiSѓRIR°R»Rё RЅRµ R»RёS€Rµ SЂRѕSЃS–SЏRЅRё, SЏRyeRёS… RIR°R¶RyeRѕ RїS–RgRѕR·SЂSЋRIR°S‚Rё RI SЃRёRјRїR°S‚S–S— RgRѕ RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅRё. RќRµ RјRёRЅSѓR»Rѕ S– RјS–SЃSЏS†SЏ, SЏRye Sѓ R„RISЂRѕRїRµR№SЃSЊRyeRѕRјSѓ RїR°SЂR»R°RјRµRЅS‚S– R±SѓR»R° RїSЂRёR№RЅSЏS‚R° SЂRµR·RѕR»SЋS†S–SЏ S‰RѕRgRѕ RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅRё, RgRµ RIRїRµSЂS€Rµ Rј’SЏRyeRѕ RїSЂRѕR·RISѓS‡R°R»Rѕ: “R— R‘R°RЅRgRµSЂRѕSЋ RgRѕ R„RISЂRѕRїRё RЅRµ SѓRIS–R№RgRµS‚Rµ”.

RђRIS‚RѕSЂRѕRј S†SЊRѕRiRѕ RїSЂRѕRµRyeS‚Sѓ SЂRµR·RѕR»SЋS†S–S— R±SѓRI S”RISЂRѕRgRµRїSѓS‚R°S‚ RIS–Rg RџRѕR»SЊS‰S– RџR°RIRµR» R—R°R»RµRISЃSЊRyeRёR№. RќR°RiR°RgR°SЋ, S‰Rѕ RIS–RЅ R±SѓRI RїSЂRµRgSЃS‚R°RIRЅRёRyeRѕRј “R“SЂRѕRјR°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRѕS— RїR»R°S‚S„RѕSЂRјRё”, R° RЅRµ RџS–RЎSѓ. R”R»SЏ S‚RѕRgS–S€RЅSЊRѕRiRѕ RїSЂRµR·RёRgRµRЅS‚R° R›RµS…R° RљR°S‡RёRЅSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ SѓRyeR°R· R’S–RyeS‚RѕSЂR° R®S‰RµRЅRyeR°, R· SЏRyeRёRј RIRѕRЅRё RїRµSЂRµR±SѓRIR°R»Rё Sѓ R±R»RёR·SЊRyeRёS… RIR·R°S”RјRёRЅR°S…, SЃS‚R°RI RѕSЃRѕR±RёSЃS‚RёRј SѓRgR°SЂRѕRј.

RќR° RјS–R№ RїRѕRiR»SЏRg, SЃR°RјRµ SѓRyeR°R· RїSЂRѕ RЅR°RgR°RЅRЅSЏ R·RIR°RЅRЅSЏ RiRµSЂRѕSЏ RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅRё R‘R°RЅRgRµSЂS– SЃS‚R°RI SЃRIRѕS”SЂS–RgRЅRёRј RїRѕS€S‚RѕRIS…RѕRј RgRѕ RyeRѕRЅS„R»S–RyeS‚Sѓ. RњRѕR¶R»RёRIRѕ, SЏ RїRµSЂRµR±S–R»SЊS€SѓSЋ, R°R»Rµ SЃR°RјRµ SѓRyeR°R· RјRµRЅS– RIRёRgR°S”S‚SЊSЃSЏ S‚S–S”SЋ RyeSЂR°RїR»RµSЋ, SЏRyeR° RїRµSЂRµRїRѕRIRЅRёR»R° S‡R°S€Sѓ. R§Rё, SЂR°RgS€Rµ, RyeR°RјS–RЅS‡RёRyeRѕRј, SЏRyeRёR№ SЃRїSЂRёS‡RёRЅRёRI R»R°RIRёRЅSѓ.

RџRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeS– RїRѕR»S–S‚RёRyeRё R№ SЂR°RЅS–S€Rµ R±SѓR»Rё SЂRѕR·S‡R°SЂRѕRIR°RЅS– SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕSЋ RїRѕR»S–S‚RёRyeRѕSЋ. RЇ RЅRµ S…RѕS‡Sѓ SЃRyeR°R·R°S‚Rё, S‰Rѕ RISЃSЏ RIRёRЅR° S‚S–R»SЊRyeRё RЅR° SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕRјSѓ R±RѕS†S–. R™RgRµS‚SЊSЃSЏ RїSЂRѕ S‚Rµ, S‰Rѕ SЏRyeS‰Rѕ RјRё SЂRѕR·RiR»SЏRgR°S”RјRѕ S†Rµ RїRёS‚R°RЅRЅSЏ, S‚Rѕ RЅRµ RјRѕR¶RµRјRѕ R№RѕRiRѕ RїRѕS‡RёRЅR°S‚Rё R· 2015 SЂRѕRyeSѓ.

–RђR»Rµ S‡Rё RЅRµ RIRёRiR»SЏRgR°S” S‚R°Rye, S‰Rѕ RIS–RgRЅRѕSЃRёRЅRё RЅRµ S” SЂS–RIRЅRѕRїSЂR°RIRЅRёRјRё? R©Rѕ SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅS†SЏRј RIRyeR°R·SѓSЋS‚SЊ, RyeRѕRiRѕ RIRIR°R¶R°S‚Rё S‡Rё RЅRµ RIRIR°R¶R°S‚Rё SЃRIRѕS—RјRё RiRµSЂRѕSЏRјRё? R‘R°RЅRgRµSЂR° – S†Rµ SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeR° S–SЃS‚RѕSЂS–SЏ. R§RѕRјSѓ S†Rµ RЅR°SЃS‚S–R»SЊRyeRё R·R°S‡S–RїR°S” RїRѕR»SЏRyeS–RI?

– R‘R°RЅRgRµSЂR° – S†Rµ SЃRїS–R»SЊRЅR° S–SЃS‚RѕSЂS–SЏ. RљR°R·R°S‚Rё, S‰Rѕ S‚Rµ, S‰Rѕ RIS–RgR±SѓRIR°R»RѕSЃSЏ RЅR° R’RѕR»RёRЅS– RI 1943 SЂRѕS†S–, S†Rµ R»RёS€Rµ SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeR° S–SЃS‚RѕSЂS–SЏ – RЅRµ RIS–RgRїRѕRIS–RgR°S” RїSЂR°RIRgS–. RўR°Rye RiRѕRIRѕSЂRёS‚Rё – RѕR·RЅR°S‡R°S” RЅRµ SЂRѕR·SѓRјS–S‚Rё, S‰Rѕ RјRё RЅRµ RјRѕR¶RµRјRѕ RїRµSЂRµR±SѓRIR°S‚Rё RI S‚S–SЃRЅRёS… SЂR°RјRyeR°S… RЅR°S†S–RѕRЅR°R»SЊRЅRёS… RЅR°SЂR°S‚RёRIS–RI. Rђ RЅR° RјS–R№ RїRѕRiR»SЏRg, R±RµR· S€RёSЂS€RѕRiRѕ RyeRѕRЅS‚RµRyeSЃS‚Sѓ R±SѓRgSЊ-SЏRyeR° RЅR°S†S–RѕRЅR°R»SЊRЅR° S–SЃS‚RѕSЂS–SЏ RЅRµ RјR°S” SЃRµRЅSЃSѓ. RЈ S†SЊRѕRјSѓ RIRёRїR°RgRyeSѓ R№RgRµS‚SЊSЃSЏ RЅRµ R»RёS€Rµ RїSЂRѕ SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕ-RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeS– RIS–RgRЅRѕSЃRёRЅRё. R† RЅRµ S‚S–R»SЊRyeRё RїSЂRѕ S‚RёS… S‡Rё S–RЅS€RёS… RyeRѕRЅS‚SЂRѕRIRµSЂSЃS–R№RЅRёS… RiRµSЂRѕS—RI.

– R™RgRµS‚SЊSЃSЏ RїSЂRѕ RIR°R¶R»RёRIS–SЃS‚SЊ SЂRѕR·SѓRјS–RЅRЅSЏ RIS–RgRїRѕRIS–RgR°R»SЊRЅRѕSЃS‚S–, RIRёR±RёSЂR°SЋS‡Rё RЅR°S†S–RѕRЅR°R»SЊRЅRёS… RiRµSЂRѕS—RI?

– R—RIRёS‡R°R№RЅRѕ. R—SЂRѕR·SѓRјS–R»Rѕ, S‰Rѕ R±S–R»SЊS€S–SЃS‚SЊ R»SЋRgRµR№ RIRIR°R¶R°SЋS‚SЊ R‘R°RЅRgRµSЂSѓ RЅR°S†S–RѕRЅR°R»SЊRЅRёRј RiRµSЂRѕS”Rј, R°R»Rµ RЅRµ S‡RµSЂRµR· S‚Rµ, S‰Rѕ RIS–RЅ R±SѓRI SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRёRј RЅR°S†S–RѕRЅR°R»S–SЃS‚RѕRј, RЅRµS‚RµSЂRїRёRјRёRј RgRѕ S‚RёS…, S…S‚Rѕ S–RЅR°RyeS€Rµ R±R°S‡RёRI SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRёR№ S€R»SЏS… RgRѕ RЅRµR·R°R»RµR¶RЅRѕSЃS‚S–, R° S‡RµSЂRµR· S‚Rµ, S‰Rѕ RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅS– R‘R°RЅRgRµSЂR° SЃS‚R°RI SЃRёRјRIRѕR»RѕRј RѕRїRѕSЂSѓ RїSЂRѕS‚Rё SЂR°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRѕS— RIR»R°RgRё. R’SЂRµS€S‚S–-SЂRµS€S‚, RIS–RЅ R·R°RiRёRЅSѓRI RIS–Rg SЂSѓRye SЂR°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ R°RiRµRЅS‚R°.

RќR°S‚RѕRјS–SЃS‚SЊ, R·R°R±SѓRIR°SЋS‚SЊ RїSЂRѕ S‚Rµ, S‰Rѕ R‘R°RЅRgRµSЂR° RgRѕ RIS–R№RЅRё R±SѓRI RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRёRј RiSЂRѕRјR°RgSЏRЅRёRЅRѕRј. R’S–RЅ SЃRёRgS–RI Sѓ RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeS–R№ S‚SЋSЂRјS– R·R° SЃRIRѕSЋ RgS–SЏR»SЊRЅS–SЃS‚SЊ SЏRye RyeSЂR°R№RѕRIRѕRiRѕ RїSЂRѕRIS–RgRЅRёRyeR° RћRЈRќ, RIS–RgRїRѕRIS–RgR°R»SЊRЅRѕRiRѕ, RјS–R¶ S–RЅS€RёRј, R·R° RѕSЂRiR°RЅS–R·R°S†S–SЋ RIR±RёRISЃS‚RIR° RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ RјS–RЅS–SЃS‚SЂR° RIRЅSѓS‚SЂS–S€RЅS–S… SЃRїSЂR°RI R‘SЂRѕRЅS–SЃR»R°RIR° RџRµSЂR°S†SЊRyeRѕRiRѕ.

R’S–RgS‚R°Rye RIR¶Rµ RїS–SЃR»SЏ S‚RѕRiRѕ, SЏRye R№RѕRiRѕ R·R°R°SЂRµS€S‚SѓRIR°R»R° RЅS–RјRµS†SЊRyeR° RѕRyeSѓRїR°S†S–R№RЅR° RIR»R°RgR° RIR»S–S‚RyeSѓ 1941-RiRѕ, RѕRїRёRЅRёRISЃSЏ RI RyeRѕRЅS†S‚R°R±RѕSЂS– Sѓ R—R°RyeSЃRµRЅS…R°SѓR·RµRЅS–, RgRµ, RgRѕ SЂRµS‡S–, RїRµSЂRµR±SѓRIR°RI S‚R°RyeRѕR¶ RyeRµSЂS–RIRЅRёRye RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ RїS–RgRїS–R»R»SЏ, RiRµRЅRµSЂR°R» TђSЂRѕS‚-R RѕRIRµS†SЊRyeRёR№, RiRѕR»RѕRIRЅRёR№ RyeRѕRјR°RЅRgR°RЅS‚ RђSЂRјS–S— RљSЂR°R№RѕRIRѕS—. R RѕRIRµS†SЊRyeRѕRiRѕ RЅR°S†RёSЃS‚Rё R·R°RyeR°S‚SѓRIR°R»Rё, R° R‘R°RЅRgRµSЂSѓ R·RIS–R»SЊRЅRёR»Rё.

R‘R°RЅRgRµSЂR°, R·RIS–SЃRЅRѕ, RЅRµ R±SЂR°RI SѓS‡R°SЃS‚S– Sѓ R·RЅRёS‰RµRЅRЅS– S†RёRIS–R»SЊRЅRѕRiRѕ RЅR°SЃRµR»RµRЅRЅSЏ RЅR° R’RѕR»RёRЅS– 1943 SЂRѕRyeSѓ, R±Rѕ RЅR° S‚RѕR№ S‡R°SЃ RїRµSЂRµR±SѓRIR°RI Sѓ RyeRѕRЅS†S‚R°R±RѕSЂS–. RћRgRЅR°Rye S†S– R°RyeS†S–S— R·RgS–R№SЃRЅSЋRIR°R»Rё S„RѕSЂRјR°S†S–S—, SЏRyeS– RyeRѕRЅS‚SЂRѕR»SЋRIR°R»R° RћRЈRќ-R‘. R‘R°RЅRgRµSЂR° RѕS‡RѕR»SЋRIR°RI RћRЈRќ-R‘, S‚RѕR¶ R№RgRµS‚SЊSЃSЏ RїSЂRѕ R№RѕRiRѕ RїRѕR»S–S‚RёS‡RЅSѓ RIS–RgRїRѕRIS–RgR°R»SЊRЅS–SЃS‚SЊ. RњRµRЅS– R·RgR°S”S‚SЊSЃSЏ, RЅRµ RIRёSЃS‚R°S‡R°S” SЂRѕR·SѓRјS–RЅRЅSЏ S– RI RїRѕR»SЏRyeS–RI, S– RI SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅS†S–RI, S‰Rѕ SЂRµR°R»SЊRЅRёR№ R‘R°RЅRgRµSЂR° S– R№RѕRiRѕ RјS–S„ – S†Rµ RgRIS– SЂS–R·RЅS– SЂRµS‡S–.

 
R¤RћRўRћ: RђR›R†RќRђ RџRђRќRљRћR’Rђ

– RўR° S‡Rё RјRѕR¶RЅR° SЃRyeR°R·R°S‚Rё, S‰Rѕ RїRѕR»SЏRyeRё RЅR°RI’SЏR·SѓSЋS‚SЊ SЃRIRѕSЋ RIS–R·S–SЋ S–SЃS‚RѕSЂS–S— SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅS†SЏRј?

– R† S‚R°Rye, S– RЅS–. RўR°Rye — S‚RѕRјSѓ S‰Rѕ RЅRµ SЃRїSЂRёR№RјR°SЋS‚SЊ S– RЅRµ SЂRѕR·SѓRјS–SЋS‚SЊ SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕS— RїRѕR·RёS†S–S—. RќS– — R±Rѕ SЏRyeS‰Rѕ R№RgRµS‚SЊSЃSЏ RїSЂRѕ RјS–R¶RIRѕS”RЅRЅRёR№ RїRµSЂS–RѕRg S– RїRµSЂS–RѕRg R”SЂSѓRiRѕS— SЃRIS–S‚RѕRIRѕS— RIS–R№RЅRё, S‚Rѕ S†Rµ SЃRїS–R»SЊRЅR° S–SЃS‚RѕSЂS–SЏ, S– RїRѕR»SЏRyeRё RјR°SЋS‚SЊ RїSЂR°RIRѕ RЅR° RIR»R°SЃRЅSѓ S—S— S–RЅS‚RµSЂRїSЂRµS‚R°S†S–SЋ. RќR° R¶R°R»SЊ, S†Rµ RїRѕS‡R°SЃS‚Rё S–SЃS‚RѕSЂS–SЏ RyeSЂRёRIR°RIRѕRiRѕ RїSЂRѕS‚RёSЃS‚RѕSЏRЅRЅSЏ. R’RѕR»RёRЅSЊ, RЎS…S–RgRЅR° R“R°R»RёS‡RёRЅR°, S‚RµSЂRёS‚RѕSЂS–S—, SЏRyeS– R±SѓR»Rё RI RјRµR¶R°S… R”SЂSѓRiRѕS— R RµS‡S– RџRѕSЃRїRѕR»RёS‚RѕS— – S†Rµ S‡R°SЃS‚RёRЅR° SЃRїS–R»SЊRЅRѕS— S–SЃS‚RѕSЂS–S—.

R”SѓR¶Rµ S€RyeRѕRgR°, S‰Rѕ RѕR±RёRgRIS– SЃS‚RѕSЂRѕRЅRё RЅRµ S…RѕS‡SѓS‚SЊ RIRёS…RѕRgRёS‚Rё RїRѕR·R° SЂR°RјRyeRё RЅR°S†S–RѕRЅR°R»SЊRЅRёS… RЅR°SЂR°S‚RёRIS–RI S– RiRѕS‚RѕRIS– SЂRѕR·SѓRјS–S‚Rё S‚S–R»SЊRyeRё RIR»R°SЃRЅRёR№ R±S–R»SЊ. R‘R°RЅRgRµSЂR° R±SѓRI RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRёRј RiSЂRѕRјR°RgSЏRЅRёRЅRѕRј. RќRµ SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRёRј, R±Rѕ RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅRё S‚RѕRgS– RЅRµ S–SЃRЅSѓRIR°R»Rѕ, S– RЅRµ SЂR°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRёRј, R±Rѕ RЅRµ RїRµSЂRµR±SѓRIR°RI R¶RѕRgRЅRѕRiRѕ RgRЅSЏ RЅR° S‚RµSЂRёS‚RѕSЂS–S— RЅS– RЈR RЎR , RЅS– RЎR RЎR .

– R’RёRgR°S”S‚SЊSЃSЏ, S‰Rѕ SЏRye Sѓ RџRѕR»SЊS‰S– RЅRµ SЂRѕR·SѓRјS–SЋS‚SЊ S‡Rё RЅRµ S…RѕS‡SѓS‚SЊ SЂRѕR·SѓRјS–S‚Rё SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅS†S–RI, S‚R°Rye SЃR°RјRѕ RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅS– RЅRµ SЂRѕR·SѓRјS–SЋS‚SЊ RїRѕR»SЏRyeS–RI. RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeS– RјRµRgS–R° RЅRµ S‡R°SЃS‚Rѕ RIRёSЃRIS–S‚R»SЋSЋS‚SЊ S‚RµRјSѓ S†SЊRѕRiRѕ S–SЃS‚RѕSЂRёS‡RЅRѕRiRѕ RїSЂRѕS‚RёSЃS‚RѕSЏRЅRЅSЏ.

– R”S–R№SЃRЅRѕ, RI SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRёS… RјRµRgS–SЏS… S†SЋ S‚RµRјSѓ RјR°R»Rѕ RIRёSЃRIS–S‚R»SЋSЋS‚SЊ. RќR° R¶R°R»SЊ, S†Rµ SЃR°RјRµ RјRѕR¶RЅR° SЃRyeR°R·R°S‚Rё S– RїSЂRѕ RЅR°SѓRyeRѕRIS– RgRѕSЃR»S–RgR¶RµRЅRЅSЏ. R’ RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅS– S” R»RёS€Rµ RѕRgRёRЅ S–SЃS‚RѕSЂRёRye, SЏRyeRёR№ RїRѕSЃR»S–RgRѕRIRЅRѕ RgRѕSЃR»S–RgR¶SѓS” S†SЋ S‚RµRјSѓ, S†Rµ RїSЂRѕS„RµSЃRѕSЂ R†RiRѕSЂ R†R»SЊSЋS€RёRЅ. R”R»SЏ RISЃS–S… S–RЅS€RёS… S†SЏ S‚RµRјR° – RѕRgRЅR° R· R±R°RiR°S‚SЊRѕS…, S– S‚RѕS‡RЅRѕ RЅRµ RI RiRѕR»RѕRIRЅRѕRјSѓ S„RѕRyeSѓSЃS–.

R— S–RЅS€RѕRiRѕ R±RѕRyeSѓ, RgRѕSЃRIS–Rg SЃSѓSЃRїS–R»SЊRЅRёS… SЃRµRјS–RЅR°SЂS–RI SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRёS… S‚R° RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRёS… S–SЃS‚RѕSЂRёRyeS–RI RїRѕRyeR°R·R°RI RЅRµRiRѕS‚RѕRIRЅS–SЃS‚SЊ RѕR±RѕS… SЃS‚RѕSЂS–RЅ RgRѕ RgS–R°R»RѕRiSѓ. R©RѕRgRѕ SѓRIR°RiRё SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRёS… RјRµRgS–R№ RgRѕ SЃSѓS‡R°SЃRЅRёS… RIS–RgRЅRѕSЃRёRЅ, S‚Rѕ S†S–R№ S‚RµRјS– RїSЂRёSЃRISЏS‡RµRЅRѕ RgRѕRIRѕR»S– R±R°RiR°S‚Rѕ SѓRIR°RiRё.

RњRµRgS–S— RїRёSЃR°R»Rё RїSЂRѕ RIRёSЃS‚SѓRїRё RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRёS… S–RЅS‚RµR»RµRyeS‚SѓR°R»S–RI RЅR° RїS–RgS‚SЂRёRјRyeSѓ RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅRё S– SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅS†S–RI S‚R° SЂRѕR·SѓRјS–RЅRЅSЏ SЃSЊRѕRiRѕRgRЅS–S€RЅSЊRѕS— SЃRyeR»R°RgRЅRѕS— SЃRёS‚SѓR°S†S–S—. R’RёSЃS‚R°S‡RёS‚SЊ R·RiR°RgR°S‚Rё “R R°R·RѕRј R±SѓRgSѓRIR°S‚Rё R„RISЂRѕRїSѓ” (R·RIRµSЂRЅRµRЅRЅSЏ RiSЂRѕRјR°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRёS… SЃRµSЂRµRgRѕRIRёS‰ RџRѕR»SЊS‰S– S‚R° RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅRё. – R RµRg.), RѕRїSѓR±R»S–RyeRѕRIR°RЅRµ RЅR° ZbruDЌS–.

RўRѕRјSѓ RЅRµ RјRѕR¶RЅR° SЃRyeR°R·R°S‚Rё, S‰Rѕ S†RёS… RiRѕR»RѕSЃS–RI RЅRµ S‡SѓS‚RЅRѕ, R° SЏRyeS‰Rѕ RЅRµ S‡SѓS‚Rё, S‚Rѕ S†Rµ RїRёS‚R°RЅRЅSЏ SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRёS… S‚R° RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRёS… R—RњR†. R‘Rѕ RїSЂRёSЂRѕRgR° RјRµRgS–R№ S‚R°RyeR°, S‰Rѕ RIRѕRЅRё R°RyeS†RµRЅS‚SѓSЋS‚SЊ SѓRIR°RiSѓ R±S–R»SЊS€Rµ RЅR° RЅRµRiR°S‚RёRIR°S…. R† SЃR°RјRµ S‚RѕRјSѓ RЅR° RјRµRgS–SЏS… S‚R°RyeRѕR¶ R»RµR¶RёS‚SЊ S‡R°SЃS‚RёRЅR° RIRёRЅRё.

R—R°RIRgSЏRyeRё RјRµRgS–SЏRј RјRё SЂRµR°RiSѓS”RјRѕ S‚S–R»SЊRyeRё RЅR° R¶R°S…Rё. RќR°S‚RѕRјS–SЃS‚SЊ RїRѕR·RёS‚RёRIRё RјRё RgSѓR¶Rµ S€RIRёRgRyeRѕ R·R°R±SѓRIR°S”RјRѕ. RЇRye, RЅR°RїSЂRёRyeR»R°Rg, R·R°R±SѓR»Rё, RyeRѕR»Rё RЅR° RїRѕS‡R°S‚RyeSѓ 2014 SЂRѕRyeSѓ, RIR¶Rµ RїS–Rg S‡R°SЃ RyeSЂRёRIR°RIRѕRiRѕ RїSЂRѕS‚RёSЃS‚RѕSЏRЅRЅSЏ RЅR° RњR°R№RgR°RЅS–, R±SѓR»R° RIRµR»RёS‡RµR·RЅR° RїS–RgS‚SЂRёRјRyeR° RIS–Rg RїRѕR»SЏRyeS–RI. R† RЅRµ S‚S–R»SЊRyeRё RЅR° RїSЂRёRIR°S‚RЅRѕRјSѓ S‡Rё RiSЂRѕRјR°RgSЃSЊRyeRѕRјSѓ SЂS–RIRЅS–. RќR°RIS–S‚SЊ SѓSЂSЏRgRѕRIS– R»S–S‚R°RyeRё R·R°R±RёSЂR°R»Rё RїRѕSЂR°RЅRµRЅRёS… RЅR° RњR°R№RgR°RЅS–. R¦Rµ RgSѓR¶Rµ RїSЂRѕRјRѕRIRёSЃS‚RёR№ RїSЂRёRyeR»R°Rg.

– R’ RѕRgRЅRѕRјSѓ R· S–RЅS‚RµSЂRI’SЋ, RiRѕRIRѕSЂSЏS‡Rё RїSЂRѕ R±RµR·RIS–RgRїRѕRIS–RgR°R»SЊRЅS–SЃS‚SЊ SЃSѓS‡R°SЃRЅRёS… RјRµRgS–R№, RIRё R·RiR°RgR°R»Rё RIRёRgR°RЅRЅSЏ “Gazeta Wyborcza”.

– RўR°Rye. R”R»SЏ RїSЂRёRyeR»R°RgSѓ. R™S€R»RѕSЃSЏ RїSЂRѕ R±RµR·RIS–RgRїRѕRIS–RgR°R»SЊRЅS– R·R°RiRѕR»RѕRIRyeRё.

– RђR»Rµ SЏRyeS‰Rѕ RIR¶Rµ “Gazeta Wyborcza” S†RёRј RiSЂS–S€RёS‚SЊ, S‰Rѕ RiRѕRIRѕSЂRёS‚Rё RїSЂRѕ SЂRµS€S‚Sѓ?

– “Gazeta Wyborcza” – S†Rµ RIRµR»RёS‡RµR·RЅRёR№ RyeRѕRЅS†RµSЂRЅ, RI SЏRyeRѕRјSѓ RyeRѕR¶RµRЅ RјR°S” SЃRIRѕSЋ RIS–RgRїRѕRIS–RgR°R»SЊRЅS–SЃS‚SЊ. R† S‚S–, S…S‚Rѕ RgR°SЋS‚SЊ R·R°RiRѕR»RѕRIRyeRё, RyeRµSЂSѓSЋS‚SЊSЃSЏ RyeR»S–RyeR°R±RµR»SЊRЅS–SЃS‚SЋ, R° RЅRµ RIS–RgRїRѕRIS–RgR°R»SЊRЅS–SЃS‚SЋ RїRµSЂRµRg S‡RёS‚R°S‡R°RјRё. RўR° RїRѕR¶RѕRIS‚S–RЅRЅSЏ RїSЂRµSЃRё RЅR°SЏRIRЅRµ RISЃSЋRgRё. RGRѕS‡R° R·R° RїRѕR¶RѕRIS‚S–RЅRЅSЏ “Gazety Wyborczej” RјRµRЅS– SЃRѕSЂRѕRјRЅRѕ.

– R§RѕRјSѓ RЅRµ SЃRїSЂR°S†SЋRIR°R»R° S„RѕSЂRјSѓR»R° “RџSЂRѕS‰R°S”RјRѕ – RїSЂRѕSЃRёRјRѕ RїSЂRѕS‰RµRЅRЅSЏ”? RџR°Rј’SЏS‚R°S”RјRѕ, SЏRye RѕR±RёRgRIR° RїSЂRµR·RёRgRµRЅS‚Rё RѕS„S–S†S–R№RЅRѕ S—S— RѕR·RISѓS‡SѓRIR°R»Rё, S– R·RgR°RIR°R»RѕSЃSЏ, S‰Rѕ RIR¶Rµ RЅRµ RјR°R»Rѕ R±Rё R±SѓS‚Rё RїRѕRIRµSЂRЅRµRЅRЅSЏ RЅR°R·R°Rg.

– R¦Rµ RgSѓR¶Rµ SЃRyeR»R°RgRЅRµ R·R°RїRёS‚R°RЅRЅSЏ. R’RѕRЅRѕ SЃS‚RѕSЃSѓS”S‚SЊSЃSЏ R·RЅR°S‡RЅRѕ S€RёSЂS€RёS… SЂRµS‡RµR№, RЅS–R¶ RїSЂRѕSЃS‚Rѕ RiSЂRѕRјR°RgSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ S– RїRѕR»S–S‚RёS‡RЅRѕRiRѕ R¶RёS‚S‚SЏ. R† SЏ RЅRµ RјR°SЋ RїSЂRѕSЃS‚RѕS— RIS–RgRїRѕRIS–RgS–. RљRѕR»Rё 1965-RiRѕ R· S‚R°RyeRёRј R·R°RyeR»RёRyeRѕRј R·RIRµSЂRЅSѓR»RёSЃSЏ RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeS– S”RїRёSЃRyeRѕRїRё RgRѕ RЅS–RјRµS†SЊRyeRёS…, S‚Rѕ S—S… Sѓ RџRѕR»SЊS‰S– R·RIRёRЅSѓRIR°S‚RёR»Rё RјR°R»Rѕ RЅRµ Sѓ RgRµSЂR¶R°RIRЅS–R№ R·SЂR°RgS–. R„RїRёSЃRyeRѕRїSѓ R‘RѕR»RµSЃR»R°RIRѕRIS– RљRѕRјS–RЅRµRyeSѓ, SЏRyeRёR№ R·R°RїSЂRѕRїRѕRЅSѓRIR°RI S„RѕSЂRјSѓR»Sѓ RїSЂRёRјRёSЂRµRЅRЅSЏ, SЃSЊRѕRiRѕRgRЅS– RїRѕSЃS‚R°RIRёR»Rё Sѓ R’SЂRѕS†R»R°RIS– RїR°Rј’SЏS‚RЅRёRye.

RђR»Rµ S‚RѕRgS–, RyeRѕR»Rё RIS–RЅ R· S–RЅS€RёRјRё S‡R»RµRЅR°RјRё S”RїRёSЃRyeRѕRїR°S‚Sѓ S—S— RїSЂRѕRiRѕR»RѕSЃRёRI – S†Rµ RIRёRyeR»RёRyeR°R»Rѕ S…RIRёR»SЋ RѕR±SѓSЂRµRЅRЅSЏ. R† RЅRµ S‚S–R»SЊRyeRё S‚RѕRiRѕ “RѕSЂRiR°RЅS–R·RѕRIR°RЅRѕRiRѕ RѕR±SѓSЂRµRЅRЅSЏ” RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRѕS— RyeRѕRјSѓRЅS–SЃS‚RёS‡RЅRѕS— RїSЂRѕRїR°RiR°RЅRgRё, R° R№ S‰RёSЂS– SЂRµR°RyeS†S–S— RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRёS… RiSЂRѕRјR°RgSЏRЅ, SЃRїRѕRIRЅRµRЅS– RЅRµRIRgRѕRIRѕR»RµRЅRЅSЏ.

 
S„RѕS‚Rѕ: R°R»S–RЅR° RїR°RЅRyeRѕRIR°

RћRyeSЂS–Rј S‚RѕRiRѕ, SЏRyeS‰Rѕ RIRё RgSѓRјR°S”S‚Rµ, S‰Rѕ RЅS–RјRµS†SЊRyeS– S”RїRёSЃRyeRѕRїRё SЃRїSЂRёR№RЅSЏR»Rё S†RµR№ R»RёSЃS‚ R·R°S…RѕRїR»RµRЅRѕ, S‚Rѕ RiR»RёR±RѕRyeRѕ RїRѕRјRёR»SЏS”S‚RµSЃSЏ. RќR° S†SЊRѕRiRѕ R»RёSЃS‚R° RgSѓR¶Rµ RgRѕRIRiRѕ RЅRµ R±SѓR»Rѕ RIS–RgRїRѕRIS–RgS–. R† RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRѕ-RЅS–RјRµS†SЊRyeRµ RїSЂRёRјRёSЂRµRЅRЅSЏ RIS–RgR±SѓR»RѕSЃSЏ S‚S–R»SЊRyeRё S‡RµSЂRµR· RgRѕRIRiS– SЂRѕRyeRё. RџSЂRѕS‚Rµ SЏ RЅRµ RїRµRIRЅR°, S‰Rѕ RyeSЂR°RїRyeSѓ Sѓ S†SЊRѕRјSѓ RїRёS‚R°RЅRЅS– RїRѕSЃS‚R°RIRёR»Rё RїSЂRµRј’S”SЂ-RјS–RЅS–SЃS‚SЂ RўR°RgRµSѓS€  RњR°R·RѕRIRµS†SЊRyeRёR№ S– R“RµR»SЊRјSѓS‚ RљRѕR»SЊ 1990-RiRѕ SЂRѕRyeSѓ. R‘Rѕ S– RЅRёRЅS– RIS–RgS‡SѓRIR°SЋS‚SЊSЃSЏ SЂRµS†RёRgRёRIRё. R† RЅR° S…RIRёR»S– RїSЂRёR№RЅSЏS‚S‚SЏ RѕRЅRѕRIR»RµRЅRѕRiRѕ R·R°RyeRѕRЅSѓ RїSЂRѕ R†RЅSЃS‚RёS‚SѓS‚ RЅR°S†S–RѕRЅR°R»SЊRЅRѕS— RїR°Rј’SЏS‚S– S†S– SЂRµS†RёRgRёRIRё R±SѓR»Rё RѕSЃRѕR±R»RёRIRѕ RїRѕRјS–S‚RЅRёRјRё.

RљRѕR»Rё R¶ R№RgRµS‚SЊSЃSЏ RїSЂRѕ S‚Rµ, S‡RѕRјSѓ RI RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRѕ-SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕRјSѓ RIRёRїR°RgRyeSѓ S†SЏ S„RѕSЂRјSѓR»R° RЅRµ SЃRїSЂR°S†SЋRIR°R»R°, S‚Rѕ S” SЂS–R·RЅS– RїSЂRёS‡RёRЅRё, RїRѕRI’SЏR·R°RЅS– R· RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRѕSЋ S‚R° SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕSЋ SЃRїRµS†RёS„S–RyeRѕSЋ. RќR°S€S– SЃSѓSЃRїS–R»SЊSЃS‚RIR° RїRµSЂRµRIR°R¶RЅRѕ S” S…SЂRёSЃS‚RёSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRёRјRё, R°R»Rµ SЏ RЅRµ RIRїRµRIRЅRµRЅR°, S‰Rѕ S†S– S…SЂRёSЃS‚RёSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeS– RѕSЃRЅRѕRIRё RЅR°SЃS‚S–R»SЊRyeRё RiR»RёR±RѕRyeRѕ R·R°SЃRIRѕS”RЅS–.

R† RyeRѕR»Rё RїSЂRёRјRёSЂRµRЅRЅSЏ RїSЂRѕRiRѕR»RѕS€SѓSЋS‚SЊ SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeS– S– RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeS– S”RїRёSЃRyeRѕRїRё Sѓ 1987 SЂRѕS†S–, S‚Rѕ SЏ R·RЅR°SЋ, S‰Rѕ RIRѕRЅRё RIS–SЂSЏS‚SЊ RI S†Rµ RїRѕSЃR»R°RЅRЅSЏ. RўR° RyeRѕR»Rё S†Rµ RїSЂRѕRiRѕR»RѕS€SѓSЋS‚SЊ RїSЂRµR·RёRgRµRЅS‚Rё RљSѓS‡RјR° S– RљRIR°SЃRЅRµRISЃSЊRyeRёR№, S‚Rѕ S†Rµ (R»RёS€Rµ S– R°R¶) R·R°SЏRIRё RgRµSЂR¶R°RIRЅRёS… RјSѓR¶S–RI. RљSЂS–Rј S‚RѕRiRѕ, RїSЂRѕSЃS‚Rµ R·R°RїRёS‚R°RЅRЅSЏ — RЅR°SЃRyeS–R»SЊRyeRё R·R°SЏRIR° SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRёS… S”RїRёSЃRyeRѕRїS–RI 1987-RiRѕ RїRѕS‚SЂR°RїRёR»R° RgRѕ SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ SЃSѓSЃRїS–R»SЊSЃS‚RIR°? RђRgR¶Rµ RЅR° S‚RѕR№ RјRѕRјRµRЅS‚ R·R°SЏRIR° R±SѓR»R° R±S–R»SЊS€Rµ SЃRёRјRIRѕR»S–S‡RЅRёRј, RјRѕSЂR°R»SЊRЅRёRј R°RyeS‚RѕRј, R°RЅS–R¶ RµR»RµRјRµRЅS‚RѕRј SЂRµR°R»SЊRЅRѕRiRѕ RїSЂRёRјRёSЂRµRЅRЅSЏ.

RўRѕRgS– RЈR“RљR¦ RIR·R°RiR°R»S– R±SѓR»R° RЅRµR»RµRiR°R»SЊRЅRѕSЋ. R’S–RgRїRѕRIS–RgRЅRѕ S–S”SЂR°SЂS…Rё RЈR“RљR¦ RЅRµ RјR°R»Rё RјRѕR¶R»RёRIRѕSЃS‚S– RgRѕRЅRµSЃS‚Rё SЃRIRѕS—S… RgSѓRјRѕRye S– RїRѕSЃR»R°RЅSЊ RgRѕ RIS–SЂSЏRЅ RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅS–. RўR° R№ RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeS– S–S”SЂR°SЂS…Rё RЅRµ RјR°R»Rё RїRѕRIRЅRѕS— RјRѕR¶R»RёRIRѕSЃS‚S–, R°R»Rµ RЅR°RIS–S‚SЊ S†S–S”S— RѕR±RјRµR¶RµRЅRѕS— RЅRµ RIRёRyeRѕSЂRёSЃS‚R°R»Rё. R—RiRѕRgRѕRј S†Rµ R·RјS–RЅRёRI RIS–R·RёS‚ R†RIR°RЅR° RџR°RIR»R° II. R§RёRјR°R»RёR№ RIRїR»RёRI RјR°R»Rё R·SѓSЃRёR»R»SЏ RјRёS‚SЂRѕRїRѕR»RёS‚R° R›SЋR±RѕRјRёSЂR° R“SѓR·R°SЂR° S‚R° R№RѕRiRѕ RїR°SЃS‚RёSЂSЃSЊRyeS– RїRѕSЃR»R°RЅRЅSЏ.

– Rђ S‡RѕRјSѓ RIRIR°R¶R°S”S‚Rµ, S‰Rѕ RїSЂRёRјRёSЂRµRЅRЅSЏ RЅRµ SЃRїSЂR°S†SЋRIR°R»Rѕ RЅR° RgRµSЂR¶R°RIRЅRѕRјSѓ SЂS–RIRЅS–?

— R’RѕRЅRѕ SЃRїSЂR°S†SЋRIR°R»Rѕ. RџSЂRѕSЃS‚Rѕ RЅR° S†SЊRѕRјSѓ RµS‚R°RїS– R№RѕRiRѕ RїS–RgRgR°RЅRѕ SЃSѓRјRЅS–RIR°Rј. R† S‚SѓS‚ RIRё RјR°S”S‚Rµ SЂR°S†S–SЋ (RїRѕRIRµSЂS‚R°SЋS‡RёSЃSЊ RgRѕ R·R°RїRёS‚R°RЅRЅSЏ, R· SЏRyeRѕRiRѕ RјRё RїRѕS‡RёRЅR°R»Rё S†SЋ SЂRѕR·RјRѕRISѓ), S†Rµ RїS–RgRgR°RЅRѕ SЃSѓRјRЅS–RISѓ R· RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ R±RѕRyeSѓ SЃR°RјRµ 2015 SЂRѕRyeSѓ.

– RћRgRёRЅ S–R· R»SЊRIS–RISЃSЊRyeRёS… S–SЃS‚RѕSЂRёRyeS–RI, RIRёRyeR»R°RgR°S‡ R›SЊRIS–RISЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ SѓRЅS–RIRµSЂSЃRёS‚RµS‚Sѓ, SЂRѕR·RїRѕRIS–RgR°RI, SЏRye S‚RѕSЂS–Rye RЅR° RѕRgRЅS–R№ S–R· RyeRѕRЅS„RµSЂRµRЅS†S–R№ RIS–RgS‡SѓRI, S‰Rѕ SЃS‚R°RIR»RµRЅRЅSЏ RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRёS… S–SЃS‚RѕSЂRёRyeS–RI RgRѕ SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRёS… SЃS‚R°R»Rѕ RgSѓR¶Rµ S…RѕR»RѕRgRЅRёRј.

– RўR°Rye, R°S‚RјRѕSЃS„RµSЂR° RI RџRѕR»SЊS‰S– R·RјS–RЅRёR»R°SЃSЏ. RўR° SЏ RiR°RgR°SЋ, S‰Rѕ SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅS†S– RјR°R»Rё R±Rё RyeSЂR°S‰Rµ SЂRѕR·SѓRјS–S‚Rё S‚Rµ, S‰Rѕ RIS–RgR±SѓRIR°S”S‚SЊSЃSЏ RI RџRѕR»SЊS‰S–. RњRѕR¶RЅR° SЃRїSЂRѕR±SѓRIR°S‚Rё RїRѕRgRёRIRёS‚RёSЃSЏ RЅR° S†Rµ, SЏRye RЅR° SЃRёS‚SѓR°S†S–SЋ RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅS– RїS–SЃR»SЏ 2010 SЂRѕRyeSѓ. RЇ RЅRµ RїRѕSЂS–RIRЅSЋSЋ SЂRµR¶RёRјSѓ RЇRЅSѓRyeRѕRIRёS‡R° R· RїSЂR°RIRѕRIRёRј RѕR±SЂR°RЅRЅSЏRј RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRѕS— RIR»R°RgRё, R°R»Rµ S…RѕS‡Sѓ RЅR°RiRѕR»RѕSЃRёS‚Rё, S‰Rѕ S‚SЂRµR±R° SЂRѕR·SѓRјS–S‚Rё SЃRёS‚SѓR°S†S–SЋ RI SЃRµSЂRµRgRёRЅS– RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ SЃSѓSЃRїS–R»SЊSЃS‚RIR° RїRѕRgS–R±RЅRёRј S‡RёRЅRѕRј, SЏRye S†Rµ RIRёRiR»SЏRgR°R»Rѕ S‚RѕRgS– RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅS–.

RўRѕR±S‚Rѕ SЃSЊRѕRiRѕRgRЅS– RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRµ SЃSѓSЃRїS–R»SЊSЃS‚RIRѕ SЂRѕR·RyeRѕR»RѕS‚Rµ. R† RїRѕR·RёS†S–S— RgSѓR¶Rµ R·R°RiRѕSЃS‚SЂRµRЅS–. R—RјR°RiR°RЅRЅSЏ “S…S‚Rѕ RyeSЂR°S‰RёR№ RїR°S‚SЂS–RѕS‚” SЃS‚R°R»Rѕ SѓR»SЋR±R»RµRЅRёRј R·R°RЅSЏS‚S‚SЏRј RѕR±RѕS… SЃS‚RѕSЂS–RЅ S†SЊRѕRiRѕ RїSЂRѕS‚RёSЃS‚RѕSЏRЅRЅSЏ.

R’RIR°R¶R°SЋ, S‰Rѕ S†Rµ RїSЂRѕS†RµSЃ RISЃRµSЂRµRgRёRЅS– RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ SЃSѓSЃRїS–R»SЊSЃS‚RIR°, SЏRyeRёR№ RјR°S‚RёRјRµ S‚SЂRёRIR°R»S– RЅRµRiR°S‚RёRIRЅS– RЅR°SЃR»S–RgRyeRё. RђR»Rµ SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅS†S– RјR°R»Rё R±Rё RїSЂRѕSЏRIRёS‚Rё S…RѕS‡R° R±Rё SЃS‚S–R»SЊRyeRё SЂRѕR·SѓRјS–RЅRЅSЏ, SЃRyeS–R»SЊRyeRё RїSЂRѕSЏRIR»SЏR»Rё RїRѕR»SЏRyeRё RI SЃRёS‚SѓR°S†S–S—, Sѓ SЏRyeS–R№ R±SѓR»Rё SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅS†S– RIS–SЃS–Rј SЂRѕRyeS–RI S‚RѕRјSѓ

– R§Rё RјRѕR¶RЅR° RїRѕSЂS–RIRЅSЋRIR°S‚Rё RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeSѓ SЃRёS‚SѓR°S†S–SЋ “S…S‚Rѕ R±S–R»SЊS€RёR№ RїR°S‚SЂS–RѕS‚” S–R· S‚RёRј, S‰Rѕ RyeRѕS—S‚SЊSЃSЏ RI R RѕSЃS–S— S–R· RїRѕR»S–S‚RёRyeRѕSЋ S–SЃS‚RѕSЂRёS‡RЅRѕS— RїR°Rј’SЏS‚S–?

– RќS–, R°R±SЃRѕR»SЋS‚RЅRѕ RЅS–. RЇ SЂRѕR·SѓRјS–SЋ, S‰Rѕ S” SЃRїRѕRyeSѓSЃR° S‚R°RyeRѕRiRѕ RїRѕSЂS–RIRЅSЏRЅRЅSЏ. R† R±R°RiR°S‚Rѕ S…S‚Rѕ R· RyeSЂRёS‚RёRyeS–RI RџRѕR»SЊS‰S– RЅR°RgS‚Rѕ RѕS…RѕS‡Rµ S†RёRј S– R·R°R№RјR°S”S‚SЊSЃSЏ. RўR° SЏ RIRIR°R¶R°SЋ S‚R°RyeS– RїRѕSЂS–RIRЅSЏRЅRЅSЏ R±RµR·RIS–RgRїRѕRIS–RgR°R»SЊRЅRёRјRё. RЈ RїSѓR±R»S–S†RёSЃS‚RёS†S– RiS–RїRµSЂR±RѕR»S–R·R°S†S–SЏ S” RIRёRiSЂR°S€RЅRёRј RїSЂRёR№RѕRјRѕRј, RїSЂRѕS‚Rµ RI R°RЅR°R»S–R·SѓRIR°RЅRЅS– SЃRёS‚SѓR°S†S–S— – S†Rµ RїSЂRѕRIR°R». RњRё RЅRµ RјR°S”RјRѕ RїSЂR°RIR° RїS–RgRgR°RIR°S‚RёSЃSЏ RµRјRѕS†S–SЏRј. R— S‚RѕS‡RyeRё R·RѕSЂSѓ RgRѕS‚SЂRёRјR°RЅRЅSЏ RЅRѕSЂRј RїSЂR°RIRѕRIRѕS— RgRµSЂR¶R°RIRё – S†Rµ RgRIS– SЂS–R·RЅS– SЃRёS‚SѓR°S†S–S—.

R— S‚RѕS‡RyeRё R·RѕSЂSѓ RјS–R¶RЅR°SЂRѕRgRЅRѕRiRѕ RїSЂR°RIR° — S‚RёRј RїR°S‡Rµ. RўS–, S…S‚Rѕ RїSЂRёSЂS–RIRЅSЋS” R RѕSЃS–SЋ RџSѓS‚S–RЅR° S‚R° RџRѕR»SЊS‰Sѓ RљR°S‡RёRЅSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ, RјR°SЋS‚SЊ RIS–RgRїRѕRIS–SЃS‚Rё SЃRѕR±S– RЅR° RgRIR° RїSЂRѕSЃS‚S– R·R°RїRёS‚R°RЅRЅSЏ: 1. RЇRyeR° R· S†RёS… RgRIRѕS… RgRµSЂR¶R°RI RїRѕSЂSѓS€RёR»R° RЅRѕSЂRјRё RјS–R¶RЅR°SЂRѕRgRЅRѕRiRѕ RїSЂR°RIR°? 2. RљRѕRiRѕ RїRѕR·R±R°RIR»RµRЅRѕ RiRѕR»RѕSЃSѓ RI RџRђR R„? 

 
S„RѕS‚Rѕ: R°R»S–RЅR° RїR°RЅRyeRѕRIR°

R©RѕRgRѕ RїRѕRїSЂR°RIRѕRye RgRѕ R·R°RyeRѕRЅSѓ RїSЂRѕ R†RќRџ : Sѓ RџRµSЂRµRјRёS€R»S– SЃSЊRѕRiRѕRgRЅS– RЅS–S…S‚Rѕ R· RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRёS… SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅS†S–RI RЅRµ S…RѕS‡Rµ SЃRїS–R»RyeSѓRIR°S‚RёSЃSЏ R· R¶SѓSЂRЅR°R»S–SЃS‚R°RјRё RЅR° S‚RµRјSѓ RїR°Rј’SЏS‚RЅRёRyeS–RI RЈRџRђ S‡Rё SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕ-RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRёS… RIS–RgRЅRѕSЃRёRЅ R·R°RiR°R»RѕRј. R†RјRѕRIS–SЂRЅRѕ, R±RѕSЏ-S‚SЊSЃSЏ RIS–RgRїRѕRIS–RgR°R»SЊRЅRѕSЃS‚S–. RњRѕR¶R»RёRIRѕ, S– RyeSЂRёRјS–RЅR°R»SЊRЅRѕS—, SЏRyeR° RїRµSЂRµRgR±R°S‡RµRЅR° S†RёRјRё RїRѕRїSЂR°RIRyeR°RјRё. R§Rё RЅRµ R·R°RIR°R¶R°S” S†RµR№ R·R°RyeRѕRЅ RЅRёRЅS– RgRѕSЃR»S–RgRЅRёRyeR°Rј, RЅR°SѓRyeRѕRIS†SЏRј, S–SЃS‚RѕSЂRёRyeR°Rј RI RџRѕR»SЊS‰S–?

– R—RЅR°S”S‚Rµ, RїRѕRyeRё RЅRµRјR°S” RїRµSЂS€RѕRiRѕ SЃSѓRgRѕRIRѕRiRѕ RIRёSЂRѕRyeSѓ — RЅS–S‡RѕRiRѕ SЃRyeR°R·R°S‚Rё RЅRµ RјRѕR¶RЅR°. RЇ RЅRµ S…RѕS‡Sѓ RyeRѕRјRµRЅS‚SѓRIR°S‚Rё RїRѕRIRµRgS–RЅRyeRё SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅS†S–RI RI RџRѕR»SЊS‰S–, RѕSЃRѕR±R»RёRIRѕ RI RџRµSЂRµRјRёS€R»S–.

R RѕR·SѓRјS–SЋ, S‰Rѕ S—Rј R¶RёRIRµS‚SЊSЃSЏ RЅRµ R»RµRiRyeRѕ. RЇRye RIR°SЂS€R°RI’SЏRЅRyeR°, SЏ RјRѕR¶Sѓ SЃRѕR±S– RgRѕR·RIRѕR»RёS‚Rё R·RЅR°S‡RЅRѕ R±S–R»SЊS€Rµ — R±Rѕ Sѓ SЃS‚RѕR»RёS†S– R·RѕRISЃS–Rј S–RЅS€R° SЃRёS‚SѓR°S†S–SЏ. RќR°RїSЂRёRyeR»R°Rg, RјRµSЂ R’R°SЂS€R°RIRё RgR°RI R·RiRѕRgSѓ RїS–RgSЃRIS–S‚RёS‚Rё SЃRёRЅSЊRѕ-R¶RѕRIS‚RёRј RyeRѕR»SЊRѕSЂRѕRј RџR°R»R°S† RyeSѓR»SЊS‚SѓSЂRё S– RЅR°SѓRyeRё RЅR° R·RЅR°Rye SЃRѕR»S–RgR°SЂRЅRѕSЃS‚S– R· RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅRѕSЋ. R¦Rµ R±SѓR»Rѕ RїS–Rg S‡R°SЃ R RµRIRѕR»SЋS†S–S— R“S–RgRЅRѕSЃS‚S–. R† RyeRѕR»Rё RЅRµ RIRgR°R»RѕSЃSЏ S‡RµSЂRµR· R·R°R±RѕSЂRѕRЅSѓ RјRµSЂR° RџRµSЂRµRјRёS€R»SЏ RїSЂRѕRIRµSЃS‚Rё S„RµSЃS‚RёRIR°R»SЊ RI RџRµSЂRµRјRёS€R»S– 2016 SЂRѕRyeSѓ, S‚Rѕ S†Rµ SЂRѕR±RёR»Rё Sѓ R’R°SЂS€R°RIS–.

RљRѕR»Rё S†SЏ RЅRѕRIRµR»S–R·R°S†S–SЏ R±SѓR»R° SЃS…RIR°R»RµRЅR°, SЏ R·SЂRѕR±RёR»R° SЃRIRѕSЋ R·R°SЏRISѓ, RЅR°RїRёSЃR°RIS€Rё RїSЂRѕ S†Rµ S‚RµRyeSЃS‚, SЏRyeRёR№ RѕRїSѓR±R»S–RyeSѓRIR°R»Rё RЅR° SЃR°R№S‚S– RyeR°S‚RѕR»RёS†SЊRyeRѕRiRѕ R¶SѓSЂRЅR°R»Sѓ “WiD™Eje”. R¦RµR№ S‚RµRyeSЃS‚ R±SѓRI RїRµSЂRµRyeR»R°RgRµRЅRёR№ SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕSЋ RјRѕRIRѕSЋ S– RѕRїSѓR±R»S–RyeRѕRIR°RЅRёR№ RЅR° ZbruDЌS–. RџS–SЃR»SЏ RїSѓR±R»S–RyeR°S†S–S— RЅR° SЃR°R№S‚S– «WiD™Eje» RјRµRЅRµ R·R°RїSЂRѕSЃRёR»Rё RgRѕ RgRёSЃRyeSѓSЃS–S— RїSЂRѕ RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRёR№ RїR°S‚SЂS–RѕS‚RёR·Rј, RI SЏRyeS–R№ RIR·SЏR»Rё SѓS‡R°SЃS‚SЊ RЅRµ R»RёS€Rµ S–RЅS‚RµR»RµRyeS‚SѓR°R»Rё S…SЂRёSЃS‚RёSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRѕ-RgRµRјRѕRyeSЂR°S‚RёS‡RЅRѕRiRѕ SЃRїSЂSЏRјSѓRIR°RЅRЅSЏ, R° R№ RyeR°S‚RѕR»RёS†SЊRyeS– S–S”SЂR°SЂS…Rё.

R¦SЋ RgRёSЃRyeSѓSЃS–SЋ R·R°RїRѕS‡R°S‚RyeSѓRIR°RI RџSЂRёRјR°SЃ RџRѕR»SЊS‰S–, RyeR°SЂRgRёRЅR°R» R’RѕR№S†RµS… RџRѕR»SЏRye. R’S–RЅ RЅR°RIRѕRgRёRI SЃR»RѕRIR° R· RјRёRЅSѓR»RѕSЂS–S‡RЅRѕRiRѕ R»RёSЃS‚R° S”RїRёSЃRyeRѕRїS–RI, SЏRyeS– SЂS–R·RyeRѕ R·R°SЃSѓRgR¶SѓRIR°R»Rё RISЃS– RїSЂRѕSЏRIRё RyeSЃRµRЅRѕS„RѕR±S–S— RISЃRµSЂRµRgRёRЅS– RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ SЃSѓSЃRїS–R»SЊSЃS‚RIR°. RЈ S†S–R№ RїR°RЅRµR»S– RїSЂRѕ RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRёR№ RїR°S‚SЂS–RѕS‚RёR·Rј SЏ RIRёSЃS‚SѓRїR°R»R° RIS–RgSЂR°R·Sѓ RїS–SЃR»SЏ RЅSЊRѕRiRѕ. R† RїRѕR±R°S‡RёR»R° SЂRѕR·SѓRјS–RЅRЅSЏ R· R±RѕRyeSѓ RџSЂRёRјR°SЃR°, S†Rµ RїSЂRѕS‡RёS‚SѓRIR°R»RѕSЃSЏ RI R№RѕRiRѕ SЂRµR°RyeS†S–S— RЅR° RјRѕS— SЃR»RѕRIR°, SЏRye S– R±S–R»SЊS€RѕSЃS‚S– RїSѓR±R»S–RyeRё.

– R§RѕRјSѓ R¶ S‚RѕRgS– R·R° R·R°RyeRѕRЅ RїSЂRѕRiRѕR»RѕSЃSѓRIR°R»Rё?

R§RµSЂRµR· RјS–SЃSЏS†SЊ RјRµRЅRµ R·R°RїSЂRѕSЃRёR»Rё RЅR° RgRёSЃRyeSѓSЃS–SЋ RgRѕ RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ RѕRјR±SѓRgSЃRјRµRЅR° — SЃR°RјRµ S‰RѕRgRѕ RЅRѕRIRѕRiRѕ R·R°RyeRѕRЅSѓ RїSЂRѕ R†RќRџ S– RїSЂRѕ SЃS‚R°RЅRѕRIRёS‰Rµ SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕS— RЅR°S†S–RѕRЅR°R»SЊRЅRѕS— RјRµRЅS€RёRЅRё RI RџRѕR»SЊS‰S–. RЇ S‡S–S‚RyeRѕ RIRёSЃR»RѕRIRёR»R° SЃRIRѕSЋ RgSѓRјRyeSѓ: Sѓ RЅRѕRIRѕRјSѓ R·RISѓS‡R°RЅRЅS– S†RµR№ R·R°RyeRѕRЅ SЃSѓRїRµSЂRµS‡RёS‚SЊ RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeS–R№ RyeRѕRЅSЃS‚RёS‚SѓS†S–S—.

RўRѕR±S‚Rѕ RїRѕRIRµSЂS‚R°S” RgRѕ RµS‚RЅS–S‡RЅRѕRiRѕ SЂRѕR·SѓRјS–RЅRЅSЏ RiSЂRѕRјR°RgSЏRЅSЃS‚RIR°, R° S†Rµ SЃSѓRїRµSЂRµS‡RёS‚SЊ RѕSЃRЅRѕRIR°Rј RgRµRјRѕRyeSЂR°S‚S–S— R№ RѕSЃRЅRѕRIR°Rј RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRѕS— RyeRѕRЅSЃS‚RёS‚SѓS†S–S—. R† RIS–RgRїRѕRIS–RgR°R»SЊRЅRёRјRё R·R° R№RѕRiRѕ R·R°RїSЂRѕRIR°RgR¶RµRЅRЅSЏ S” RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeS– RgRµRїSѓS‚R°S‚Rё. Rђ S†Rµ RµR»RµRјRµRЅS‚ R·RјR°RiR°RЅRЅSЏ – S…S‚Rѕ RyeSЂR°S‰RёR№ RїR°S‚SЂS–RѕS‚.

– R¦Rµ RјRѕRјRµRЅS‚ RЅR°SЃS‚S–R»SЊRyeRё SЃRёR»SЊRЅRѕRiRѕ R·R°SЃR»S–RїR»RµRЅRЅSЏ SЃR°RјRёRј R·RјR°RiR°RЅRЅSЏRј?

– RўR°Rye, S†Rµ R·R°SЃR»S–RїR»RµRЅRЅSЏ S‚R°RyeRµ RїRѕS‚SѓR¶RЅRµ, S‰Rѕ RIRѕRЅRё RЅRµ R±R°S‡R°S‚SЊ RѕS‡RµRIRёRgRЅRѕS— S€RyeRѕRgRё. RљRѕR»Rё RїR°SЂR»R°RјRµRЅS‚R°SЂS– RgRёSЃRyeSѓS‚SѓSЋS‚SЊ RїSЂRѕ S‚Rµ, S…S‚Rѕ RyeRѕRiRѕ RїSЂRёS‚SЏRiRЅRµ RgRѕ RIS–RgRїRѕRIS–RgR°R»SЊRЅRѕSЃS‚S– R·R° RgS–SЏR»SЊRЅS–SЃS‚SЊ RЅR° S€RyeRѕRgSѓ RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRѕS— RЅR°S†S–S—, S‚Rѕ SЏ RЅRµ R¶R°SЂS‚SѓSЋ, RyeRѕR»Rё RyeR°R¶Sѓ, S‰Rѕ SЃRїRѕS‡R°S‚RyeSѓ S‚SЂRµR±R° RїSЂRёS‚SЏRiRЅSѓS‚Rё RgRѕ RIS–RgRїRѕRIS–RgR°R»SЊRЅRѕSЃS‚S– S‚RIRѕSЂS†S–RI S†SЊRѕRiRѕ R·R°RyeRѕRЅSѓ, R±Rѕ RЅR°R№R±S–R»SЊS€Rµ SЃR°RјRµ RIRѕRЅRё S€RyeRѕRgSЏS‚SЊ RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeS–R№ RЅR°S†S–S—.

– R§Rё RЅRµ SЃRїRµRyeSѓR»SЋSЋS‚SЊ RїRѕR»SЏRyeRё RЅR° SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRёS… RїSЂRѕR±R»RµRјR°S… S‚R°RyeRёRјRё S–RЅS–S†S–R°S‚RёRIR°RјRё, SЏRye “RљR°SЂS‚R° RїRѕR»SЏRyeR°”?

– RќR° RјRѕSЋ RgSѓRјRyeSѓ, S” RgRIR° R°SЃRїRµRyeS‚Rё: R»SЋRgRё, SЏRyeS– S€SѓRyeR°SЋS‚SЊ SЃRIS–R№ S€R»SЏS… RgRѕ RgRѕR±SЂRѕR±SѓS‚Sѓ, RgRѕ S‚R°RyeRѕRiRѕ SЂS–RIRЅSЏ R¶RёS‚S‚SЏ, SЏRyeRёR№ R»SЋRgRёRЅSѓ RIR»R°S€S‚RѕRISѓS”. R§RѕRјSѓ RјRё RјR°S”RјRѕ R·RIRёRЅSѓRIR°S‡SѓRIR°S‚Rё SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRёS… RiSЂRѕRјR°RgSЏRЅ Sѓ S‚RѕRјSѓ, S‰Rѕ RIRѕRЅRё S…RѕS‡SѓS‚SЊ RyeSЂR°S‰RѕRiRѕ R¶RёS‚S‚SЏ? RўRёRј RїR°S‡Rµ SЏ RЅRµ RјRѕR¶Sѓ RIRёRЅRёS‚Rё RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ SѓSЂSЏRgSѓ RI S‚RѕRјSѓ, S‰Rѕ RIS–RЅ S†SЊRѕRјSѓ SЃRїSЂRёSЏS”.

R§Rё S‚S–, S…S‚Rѕ S–RЅS–S†S–SЋRIR°RI “RљR°SЂS‚Sѓ RїRѕR»SЏRyeR°” R·RgRѕRiR°RgSѓRIR°R»RёSЃSЏ S‚RѕRgS–, RїRѕRЅR°Rg 10 SЂRѕRyeS–RI S‚RѕRјSѓ RїSЂRѕ S‚Rµ, S‰Rѕ S†Rµ RIS–RgRyeSЂRёS” RgRIRµSЂS– RIRµR»RёRyeS–R№ S…RIRёR»S– SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕS— RµRјS–RiSЂR°S†S–S—? RћS‡RµRIRёRgRЅRѕ, S‰Rѕ RЅS–. RђR»Rµ S†Rµ SЃSЊRѕRiRѕRgRЅS– RgSѓR¶Rµ R·SЂSѓS‡RЅRѕ, R±Rѕ RgR°S” SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅS†SЏRј RјRѕR¶R»RёRIS–SЃS‚SЊ RЅRµ S‚S–R»SЊRyeRё RїSЂR°S†RµRIR»R°S€S‚SѓRIR°S‚RёSЃSЊ RЅR° S–RЅS€RёS… RѕSЃRЅRѕRIR°S…, R°RЅS–R¶ S–RЅRѕR·RµRјRЅRёRј RiSЂRѕRјR°RgSЏRЅR°Rј, R° S‚R°RyeRѕR¶ RјRѕR¶R»RёRIS–SЃS‚SЊ R±RµR·RѕRїR»R°S‚RЅRѕRiRѕ RЅR°RIS‡R°RЅRЅSЏ. R¦Rµ R·SЂSѓS‡RЅRѕ R· RїRѕRiR»SЏRgSѓ RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRѕS— RµRyeRѕRЅRѕRјS–RyeRё. RўRѕR±S‚Rѕ S” R·R°RїRёS‚ S– S” RїSЂRѕRїRѕR·RёS†S–SЏ.

 
S„RѕS‚Rѕ: R°R»S–RЅR° RїR°RЅRyeRѕRIR°

RџRёS‚R°RЅRЅSЏ – S‡Rё SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeR° RIR»R°RgR° RISЃRµ SЂRѕR±RёS‚SЊ RgR»SЏ S‚RѕRiRѕ, R°R±Rё SЃS‚RIRѕSЂRёS‚Rё RїRµSЂSЃRїRµRyeS‚RёRISѓ RgR»SЏ SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕS— RјRѕR»RѕRgS–?

R¦Rµ R·RISѓS‡RёS‚SЊ, RјRѕR¶Rµ, SЂRёS‚RѕSЂRёS‡RЅRѕ S– R·R°RЅR°RgS‚Rѕ RѕR±RIRёRЅSѓRIR°S‡SѓRIR°R»SЊRЅRѕ, R°R»Rµ RјRµRЅS– R·RgR°S”S‚SЊSЃSЏ, S‰Rѕ RgR°RIRЅRѕ RїRѕSЂR° S‚RIRѕSЂRёS‚Rё SЃRїRµS†S–R°R»SЊRЅSѓ RїSЂRѕRiSЂR°RјSѓ RgR»SЏ RјRѕR»RѕRgRёS… SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅS†S–RI, S‰RѕR± RїSЂRёRїRёRЅRёS‚Rё S—S…RЅS–R№ RIS–RgS‚S–Rye. R¦Rµ RЅRµRїSЂRёRїSѓSЃS‚RёRјRѕ, S‰RѕR± RI SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeS–R№ RgRµSЂR¶R°RIS– SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeR° RјRѕR»RѕRgSЊ RЅRµ R·RЅR°S…RѕRgRёR»R° SЃRѕR±S– RјR°R№R±SѓS‚RЅSЊRѕRiRѕ.

R¦Rµ SЃR°RјRµ SЃS‚RѕSЃSѓS”S‚SЊSЃSЏ S– RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRѕS— RIR»R°RgRё. RџS–SЃR»SЏ 2004-RiRѕ SЃRїRѕSЃS‚RµSЂS–RiR°S”RјRѕ S‚R°RyeRѕR¶ RIRµR»RёS‡RµR·RЅRёR№ RIS–RgS‚S–Rye RјRѕR»RѕRgRёS… R»SЋRgRµR№ R· RџRѕR»SЊS‰S–. R¦Rµ RgRѕR±SЂRµ RѕSЃRIS–S‡RµRЅRµ RїRѕRyeRѕR»S–RЅRЅSЏ, SЏRyeRµ R·RЅR°S…RѕRgRёS‚SЊ SЃRѕR±S– RyeSЂR°S‰S– SѓRјRѕRIRё RЅR° R—R°S…RѕRgS–. R†, RїRѕRIS–SЂS‚Rµ, RЅRµ S‚S–R»SЊRyeRё RЅR° RјRёR№RyeR°S… Sѓ R’RµR»RёRyeS–R№ R‘SЂRёS‚R°RЅS–S—.

RЇ RЅRµ RIS‚RѕRјR»SЋSЋSЃSЊ RїRѕRIS‚RѕSЂSЋRIR°S‚Rё: SЃRїS–R»SЊRЅR° RјRµS‚R° SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ S‚R° RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ SѓSЂSЏRgSѓ — SЃS‚RIRѕSЂRёS‚Rё RїSЂRёRIR°R±R»RёRIS– RgR»SЏ RјRѕR»RѕRgS– SѓRјRѕRIRё RI SЃRµSЂRµRgRёRЅS– RyeSЂR°S—RЅRё, R° S‚R°Rј, RgRµ S†Rµ RgRѕSЂRµS‡RЅRѕ, S†Rµ RјR°SЋS‚SЊ R±SѓS‚Rё SЃRїS–R»SЊRЅS– RїSЂRѕRµRyeS‚Rё – RI RЅR°SѓS†S–, S–RЅRЅRѕRIR°S†S–R№RЅRёS… S‚RµS…RЅRѕR»RѕRiS–SЏS…, R° S‚R°RyeRѕR¶ Sѓ RiSЂRѕRјR°RgSЃSЊRyeS–R№ S‚R° RїRѕR»S–S‚RёS‡RЅS–R№ RїR»RѕS‰RёRЅS– RјRѕR»RѕRgSЊ RјR°S” RIS–RgS‡SѓS‚Rё SЃRIRѕSЋ R·R°S‚SЂRµR±SѓRIR°RЅS–SЃS‚SЊ. R† RЅR° S†SЊRѕRјSѓ RIR°SЂS‚Rѕ R°RyeS†RµRЅS‚SѓRIR°S‚Rё SѓRIR°RiSѓ, R° RЅRµ RЅR° RјRёRЅSѓR»RѕRјSѓ.

RЇRye, RЅR° R’R°S€Sѓ RgSѓRјRyeSѓ, RјRѕR¶RЅR° RgRѕR»R°S‚Rё S‚RµRїRµSЂS–S€RЅSЋ RµSЃRyeR°R»R°S†S–SЋ RI SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕ-RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRёS… RIS–RgRЅRѕSЃRёRЅR°S…?

– RўRIRѕSЂRёS‚Rё R·RѕRISЃS–Rј S–RЅS€Sѓ RїRѕRIS–SЃS‚RyeSѓ RgRЅSЏ. R¦Rµ RїRёS‚R°RЅRЅSЏ RgRѕ RїRѕR»S–S‚RёRyeS–RI. Rђ RїRёS‚R°RЅRЅSЏ RgRѕ S–RЅS‚RµR»RµRyeS‚SѓR°R»S–RI S‚R° S–SЃS‚RѕSЂRёRyeS–RI Sѓ S‚RѕRјSѓ, S‰Rѕ RЅR°SЃRїSЂR°RIRgS– RјRё RgSѓR¶Rµ RЅRµRїRѕRIRЅRѕ RIRёRIS‡RёR»Rё RЅR°S€Sѓ SЃRїS–R»SЊRЅSѓ S–SЃS‚RѕSЂS–SЋ. R† RI S—S— RIRёRIS‡RµRЅRЅS– RЅRµ RјRѕR¶RµRјRѕ RїRµSЂRµR±SѓRIR°S‚Rё RIRёRЅSЏS‚RyeRѕRIRѕ RI RјRµR¶R°S… RѕRgRЅRѕRiRѕ RЅR°SЂR°S‚RёRISѓ. R†RЅR°RyeS€Rµ RЅS–RyeRѕR»Rё RЅRµ RIRёR№RgRµRјRѕ R· S†S–S”S— RїR°SЃS‚RyeRё. RњRѕR¶RЅR° S†SЋ SЃRёS‚SѓR°S†S–SЋ RЅR°R·RIR°S‚Rё SЃRїRѕSЂS‚RёRIRЅRёRј S‚RµSЂRјS–RЅRѕRј — RyeR»S–RЅS‡. RџRѕS‚SЂS–R±RЅRѕ RїS–RgRЅS–RјR°S‚RёSЃSЏ RЅR° RЅRѕRIRёR№ SЂS–RIRµRЅSЊ, S‚RѕR±S‚Rѕ S€SѓRyeR°S‚Rё S–RЅS€RѕS— RїR°SЂR°RgRёRiRјRё RI RјS–R¶RЅR°S†S–RѕRЅR°R»SЊRЅRёS… RIS–RgRЅRѕSЃRёRЅR°S….

RўR°RyeSѓ RїR°SЂR°RgRёRiRјSѓ R·R°RїSЂRѕRїRѕRЅSѓRIR°RI RўS–RјRѕS‚S– RЎRЅR°R№RgRµSЂ Sѓ SЃRIRѕS—R№ RїSЂR°S†S– “RљSЂRёRIR°RIS– R·RµRјR»S–”. RўR°RyeSѓ RїR°SЂR°RgRёRiRјSѓ R·R°RїSЂRѕRїRѕRЅSѓRIR°R»R° S– SЏ Sѓ SЃRIRѕS— RyeRЅRёR·S– “R’S–RgRIR°RiR° S– SЃS‚SЂR°S…”. R¦Rµ S–RЅR°RyeS€R° RїSЂRѕRїRѕR·RёS†S–SЏ, RЅS–R¶ Sѓ RЎRЅR°R№RgRµSЂR° — SЃRїSЂRѕR±R° RїRѕR±R°S‡RёS‚Rё RЅR° RјS–RyeSЂRѕSЂS–RIRЅS– RI S–RЅS€RѕRјSѓ SЂR°RyeSѓSЂSЃS– S†S– RIS–RgRЅRѕSЃRёRЅRё R№ R±R°S‡RёS‚Rё RЅRµ S‚S–R»SЊRyeRё RЅRµRiR°S‚RёRI, R° R№ RїRѕR·RёS‚RёRI.

RўSЂRµR±R° RїR°Rј’SЏS‚R°S‚Rё RїSЂRѕ RјRёRЅSѓR»Rµ, R°R»Rµ RgSѓRјR°S‚Rё RїSЂRѕ RјR°R№R±SѓS‚RЅS”. RЇRyeS‰Rѕ R¶ RЅRµ RgSѓRјR°S‚Rё RїSЂRѕ RјR°R№R±SѓS‚RЅS”, S‰Rѕ RЅRёRЅS– R±R°S‡RёRјRѕ Sѓ RIRёRїR°RgRyeSѓ RџRѕR»SЊS‰S–, S‚Rѕ R·R°R»RёS€RёS‚SЊSЃSЏ S…S–R±R° SЏRyeRµSЃSЊ R±RѕR¶RµRIS–R»SЊRЅRµ S‚SѓRїS†SЋRIR°RЅRЅSЏ RЅR° RјS–SЃS†S–, RµRyeSЃS‚R°S‚RёS‡RЅRѕ-RјR°SЂR°R·RјR°S‚RёS‡RЅRёR№ S‚R°RЅRµS†SЊ, RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRѕSЋ RјRѕRIRѕSЋ “chocholi taniec”.

RќRµSЃSѓRIRµSЂRµRЅRЅS– RЅR°S†S–S—. RЇRye RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅR° SЃS‚R°R»R° R·R°SЃRЅRѕRIRЅRёS†RµSЋ RћRћRќ?

RўS–, S…S‚Rѕ RiSЂR°S” Sѓ SЂS–R·RЅRѕRIRёRg S€R°S…S–RI S–R· RЅR°R·RIRѕSЋ V«RЇR»S‚R°V», R·RЅR°SЋS‚SЊ, RЅR°SЃRyeS–R»SЊRyeRё S†S–RЅRЅRёRјRё (R°R»Rµ RЅRµRїRµRIRЅRёRјRё) R±SѓRIR°SЋS‚SЊ S‚RёRјS‡R°SЃRѕRIS– R°R»SЊSЏRЅSЃRё. R“SЂSѓ RїSЂRёRgSѓRјR°R»Rё RїS–SЃR»SЏ RЇR»S‚RёRЅSЃSЊRyeRѕS— RyeRѕRЅS„RµSЂRµRЅS†S–S— S– RЅR°R·RIR°R»Rё RЅR° S—S— S‡RµSЃS‚SЊ.

R†SЃS‚RѕSЂS–SЏ RЅR° R»SЊRIS–RISЃSЊRyeRѕRјSѓ R¤RѕSЂSѓRјS– RIRёRgR°RIS†S–RI. R RћR—RљR›RђR”

RЈ R›SЊRIRѕRIS– SЂRѕR·RїRѕS‡R°RISЃSЏ 26-R№ R¤RѕSЂSѓRј RIRёRgR°RIS†S–RI. "R†SЃS‚RѕSЂRёS‡RЅR° RїSЂR°RIRgR°" S‚SЂR°RgRёS†S–R№RЅRѕ RѕR±SЂR°R»R° SЃRµSЂRµRg SЃRѕS‚RµRЅSЊ R·R°S…RѕRgS–RI S‚S–, S‰Rѕ RїRѕRISЏR·R°RЅS– R· S–SЃS‚RѕSЂS–S”SЋ.

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