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RњR°R»RyeRѕR»SЊRј RњR°T‘T‘RµSЂS–RgR¶ S– RiRѕR»RѕRg RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅS– 1932-1933 SЂRѕRyeS–RI

R‘RµR· SЃSѓRјRЅS–RISѓ S†Rµ R±SѓRI RѕRgRёRЅ S–R· RЅR°R№R±S–R»SЊS€RёS… R·R»RѕS‡RёRЅS–RI RЅR°S€RёS… S‡R°SЃS–RI, RЅRµ RјRµRЅS€RёR№, RЅS–R¶ S”RISЂRµR№SЃSЊRyeR° RyeR°S‚R°SЃS‚SЂRѕS„R° S‡Rё RIS–SЂRјRµRЅSЃSЊRyeR° RјR°SЃR°RyeSЂR°. RђR»Rµ RјRµRЅRµ R·R°RIR¶RgRё RISЂR°R¶R°S”, SЏRye R»SЋRgRё, RiRѕRIRѕSЂSЏS‡Rё RїSЂRѕ RIRµR»RёRyeS– SЃS‚SЂR°S…S–S‚S‚SЏ RЅR°S€RѕRiRѕ SЃS‚RѕR»S–S‚S‚SЏ vЂ“ RђSѓS€RIS–S†, RGS–SЂRѕSЃS–RјSѓ S‚R° S–RЅS€S–, RЅS–RyeRѕR»Rё RЅRµ R·RiR°RgSѓSЋS‚SЊ RiRѕR»RѕRg RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅS–. RЇRyeRѕSЃSЊ RїS–SЃR»SЏ RISЃS–S… S‚RёS… SЂRѕRyeS–RI S‰Rµ RЅRµ SѓSЃRIS–RgRѕRјR»RµRЅRѕ S‚RѕRiRѕ S„R°RyeS‚Sѓ, S‰Rѕ RЎS‚R°R»S–RЅ Sѓ 1930-S… SЂRѕRyeR°S… SѓR±RёRI RЅR°R±R°RiR°S‚Rѕ R±S–R»SЊS€Rµ R»SЋRgRµR№, RЅS–R¶ R“S–S‚R»RµSЂ RIRёRЅRёS‰RёRI S”RISЂRµS—RI.

RЈ R±RµSЂRµR·RЅS– 1983 SЂRѕRyeSѓ R‘RѕRiRgR°RЅ RќR°RiR°R№R»Rѕ R·R°RїRёSЃR°RI SЂRѕR·R»RѕRiRµ S‚R° RIS–RgRIRµSЂS‚Rµ S–RЅS‚RµSЂRISЋ S–R· R°RЅRiR»S–R№SЃSЊRyeRёRј R¶SѓSЂRЅR°R»S–SЃS‚RѕRј RњR°R»RyeRѕR»SЊRјRѕRј RњR°T‘T‘RµSЂS–RgR¶RµRј – S‚RёRј SЃR°RјRёRј RЅRѕRIRёRЅR°SЂRµRј, SЏRyeRёR№ RѕRgRЅRѕS‡R°SЃRЅRѕ S–R· TђR°SЂSЂRµS‚RѕRј R”R¶RѕRЅSЃRѕRј Sѓ R±RµSЂRµR·RЅS– 1933-RiRѕ RѕRїSЂRёR»SЋRgRЅRёRI Sѓ R±SЂRёS‚R°RЅSЃSЊRyeS–R№ RїSЂRµSЃS– S–RЅS„RѕSЂRјR°S†S–SЋ RїSЂRѕ R“RѕR»RѕRgRѕRјRѕSЂ RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅS–. "R†SЃS‚RѕSЂRёS‡RЅR° RїSЂR°RIRgR°" RїSѓR±R»S–RyeSѓS” S†Rµ S–RЅS‚RµSЂRI’SЋ S–R· R»SЋR±’SЏR·RЅRѕRiRѕ RgRѕR·RIRѕR»Sѓ R°RIS‚RѕSЂR° S‚R° RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ S–RЅSЃS‚RёS‚SѓS‚Sѓ RЅR°S†S–RѕRЅR°R»SЊRЅRѕS— RїR°Rј’SЏS‚S–.

RџRёS‚R°RЅRЅSЏ: RЇRyeRѕSЋ RјS–SЂRѕSЋ R’R°SЃ SЏRye RyeRѕSЂRµSЃRїRѕRЅRgRµRЅS‚R° S†S–RyeR°RIRёRI R R°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRёR№ RЎRѕSЋR· RїRµSЂRµRg RIRёS—R·RgRѕRј RgRѕ RњRѕSЃRyeRIRё?

R’S–RgRїRѕRIS–RgSЊ: RЇ S‚RѕRgS– RїRёSЃR°RI RїRµSЂRµRgRѕRIRёS†S– RgR»SЏ RiR°R·RµS‚Rё "RњR°RЅS‡RµSЃS‚RµSЂ TђR°SЂRgS–R°RЅ". R¦Rµ R±SѓRI S‡R°SЃ RIRµR»RёRyeRѕS— RgRµRїSЂRµSЃS–S—. R›R°RЅRyeR°SЃS‚RµSЂ RѕSЃRѕR±R»RёRIRѕ RїRѕSЃS‚SЂR°R¶RgR°RI – RgRµSЏRyeS– R· R№RѕRiRѕ RјS–SЃS‚ RјR°R»Rё 60-70 RIS–RgSЃRѕS‚RyeS–RI R±RµR·SЂRѕR±S–S‚RЅRёS…. R‘SѓR»Rѕ RїRѕS‡SѓS‚S‚SЏ, S‰Rѕ RISЃSЏ SЃRёSЃS‚RµRјR°, RI SЏRyeS–R№ RјRё R¶RёR»Rё, SЂRѕR·RIR°R»SЋS”S‚SЊSЃSЏ RЅR° S€RјR°S‚RyeRё.

"TђR°SЂRgS–R°RЅ", RѕS‡RµRIRёRgRЅRѕ, RїRѕRgS–R»SЏR»R° S†RµR№ RїRѕRiR»SЏRg RїRѕRIRЅS–SЃS‚SЋ. R“R°R·RµS‚R° S‚R°RyeRѕR¶ RgS–SЃS‚R°RIR°R»R° RgRѕSЃRёS‚SЊ R±R°RiR°S‚Rѕ RISЃS–R»SЏRyeRѕS— S–RЅS„RѕSЂRјR°S†S–S— R· R RѕSЃS–S—. R’RёSЂS–SЃS€Rё Sѓ RIS–SЂS–, S‰Rѕ RgRµRјRѕRyeSЂR°S‚RёS‡RЅRёR№ SЃRѕS†S–R°R»S–R·Rј S” RIS–RgRїRѕRIS–RgRgSЋ RЅR° RISЃS– RЅR°S€S– RyeR»RѕRїRѕS‚Rё, RїRѕR±R°S‡RёRIS€Rё SЃRѕS†S–R°R»S–SЃS‚RёS‡RЅRёR№ SѓSЂSЏRg Sѓ RgS–S— S– RїRѕRIRЅSѓ RЅRµR·R°RgRѕRIS–R»SЊRЅS–SЃS‚SЊ RїRµSЂS–RѕRgSѓ R№RѕRiRѕ RїSЂR°RIR»S–RЅRЅSЏ, R№RѕRiRѕ RїR°RgS–RЅRЅSЏ S– RїRѕSЃS‚R°RЅRЅSЏ RќR°S†S–RѕRЅR°R»SЊRЅRѕRiRѕ SѓSЂSЏRgSѓ, – S‰Rѕ RїSЂRѕSЃS‚Rѕ RѕR·RЅR°S‡R°R»Rѕ, S‰Rѕ R R°RјSЃRµR№ RњR°Rye-R”RѕRЅR°R»SЊRg RїSЂRёS”RgRЅR°RISЃSЏ RgRѕ RїR°SЂS‚S–S— RўRѕSЂS–, – SЏ RIRIR°R¶R°RI, S‰Rѕ RyeR°RїS–S‚R°R»S–SЃS‚RёS‡RЅR° SЃRёSЃS‚RµRјR° S‚R° S—S— SЃRїRѕSЃS–R± R¶RёS‚S‚SЏ R±SѓR»Rё RI RїRѕRIRЅRѕRјSѓ S…R°RѕSЃS–.

RђR»Rµ RgRµ R¶ R±SѓR»R° R°R»SЊS‚RµSЂRЅR°S‚RёRIR°? R—RIS–SЃRЅRѕ, RI RЎR RЎR . RћS‡RµRIRёRgRЅRѕ, S‰Rѕ S‚R°Rј S‚R°RyeRѕR¶, R· RIRёR±SѓS…RѕRј SЂRµRIRѕR»SЋS†S–S—, SЏRyeSѓ SЏ, S‚RѕRgS– RgRёS‚RёRЅR°, RgRѕR±SЂRµ RїR°Rј’SЏS‚R°SЋ, S†Rµ R±SѓRI S‡R°SЃ RIRµR»RёRyeRѕRiRѕ RїS–RgRЅRµSЃRµRЅRЅSЏ. R¦R°SЂSЃSЊRyeRёR№ SЂRµR¶RёRј SѓRIR°R¶R°R»Rё RѕRgRЅRёRј R· RЅR°R№R°RIS‚RѕRyeSЂR°S‚RёS‡RЅS–S€RёS… S– RЅR°R№R¶RѕSЂSЃS‚RѕRyeS–S€RёS… SЂRµR¶RёRјS–RI R·R°S…S–RgRЅRѕRiRѕ SЃRIS–S‚Sѓ, RѕS‚R¶Rµ SЂRµRIRѕR»SЋS†S–SЏ RIRёRiR»SЏRgR°R»R° S‡SѓRgRѕRIRѕSЋ.

R’RѕRЅR° RјR°R»R° RїSЂRёRЅRµSЃS‚Rё RIRѕR»SЋ, SЃRµR»SЏRЅRё RјR°R»Rё RgS–SЃS‚R°S‚Rё R·RµRјR»SЋ S– RISЃSЏRyeS– S–RЅS€S– R±R»R°RiR°. RћS‚R¶Rµ, SЏRye RЅR° RјS–R№ RїRѕRiR»SЏRg, R·RiS–RgRЅRѕ R· SЏRyeRёRј SЏ S–R· R·R°SЂRѕR·SѓRјS–R»S–SЃS‚SЋ RјRѕR»RѕRgRѕSЃS‚S– SЃRїRёSЃR°RI R· SЂR°S…SѓRЅRyeS–RI RyeR°RїS–S‚R°R»S–SЃS‚RёS‡RЅSѓ SЃRёSЃS‚RµRјSѓ, RgRµRјRѕRyeSЂR°S‚RёS‡RЅRёR№ SЃRѕS†S–R°R»S–R·Rј, R·R°RiR°R»SЊRЅRµ RIRёR±RѕSЂS‡Rµ RїSЂR°RIRѕ, RїR°SЂR»R°RјRµRЅS‚SЃSЊRyeSѓ RїSЂRѕS†RµRgSѓSЂSѓ S‚RѕS‰Rѕ, R°R»SЊS‚RµSЂRЅR°S‚RёRIR° R±SѓR»R°.

RўRѕRјSѓ SЏ RIS–RgS‡SѓRIR°RI SЃRёR»SЊRЅRµ R±R°R¶R°RЅRЅSЏ S—S— RїRѕR±R°S‡RёS‚Rё S– RЅR°RIS–S‚SЊ – S…RѕS‡ S†Rµ SЃSЊRѕRiRѕRgRЅS– R·RgR°S”S‚SЊSЃSЏ S†S–R»RyeRѕRIRёS‚RёRј R±RѕR¶RµRIS–R»R»SЏRј – SЏ RiR°RgR°RI, S‰Rѕ RyeRѕR»Rё RїRѕR±R°S‡Sѓ S†SЋ R°R»SЊS‚RµSЂRЅR°S‚RёRISѓ S– RIRѕRЅR° SЃRїSЂR°RIRgS– R±SѓRgRµ S‚R°RyeR°, SЏRyeRѕSЋ SЏ S—S— SЃRѕR±S– SѓSЏRIR»SЏRI, SЏ S‚R°Rј R·R°R»RёS€SѓSЃSЏ R¶RёS‚Rё.

RњS–R№ RIRёS—R·Rg S‚SѓRgRё SЏRye R¶SѓSЂRЅR°R»S–SЃS‚R° R±SѓRI RїSЂRѕSЃS‚Rѕ S‚SЂSЋRyeRѕRј, R°R±Rё S‚SѓRgRё RgS–SЃS‚R°S‚RёSЃSЏ. R¤R°RyeS‚RёS‡RЅRѕ SЏ RIR¶Rµ RЅR°RїRёSЃR°RI R»RёSЃS‚R°, RI SЏRyeRѕRјSѓ SЂRµRyeRѕRјRµRЅRgSѓRIR°RI SЃRµR±Rµ SЏRye SѓS‡RёS‚RµR»SЏ, R·R°RїRµRIRЅRёRIS€Rё RI SЃRIRѕS”RјSѓ S‰RёSЂRѕRјSѓ R±R°R¶R°RЅRЅS– RїRѕS—S…R°S‚Rё S‚SѓRgRё.

 

 RЈ R»S–S‚RЅSЊRѕRјSѓ RIS–S†S– RњR°T‘T‘RµSЂS–RgR¶ SЃS‚R°RI RїRµSЂRµRyeRѕRЅR°RЅRёRј S…SЂRёSЃS‚RёSЏRЅRёRЅRѕRј S– RgRѕ SЃR°RјRѕS— SЃRјRµSЂS‚S– (1990) RїRёSЃR°RI R±RµSЃS‚SЃRµR»RµSЂRё RЅR° RѕSЃRЅRѕRIS– RЎRISЏS‚RѕRiRѕ RџRёSЃSЊRјR°

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RќS–, R·RѕRISЃS–Rј RЅS–. R—RIS–SЃRЅRѕ, SЏ S‡RёS‚R°RI RgRµS‰Rѕ R· RyeRЅRёR¶RѕRye, S‰Rѕ S‚RѕRgS– RIRёS…RѕRgRёR»Rё. RќS–S‡RѕRiRѕ RѕSЃRѕR±R»RёRIRѕRiRѕ. R”RѕSЃRёS‚SЊ RgRёRIRЅRѕ, S‰Rѕ S”RgRёRЅRѕSЋ RѕSЃRѕR±RѕSЋ, SЏRyeR° RgS–R№SЃRЅRѕ RїSЂRёRјSѓSЃRёR»R° RјRµRЅRµ R·R°RgSѓRјR°S‚RёSЃSЏ, R±SѓRI, SЏRye SЏ RїSЂRёRiR°RgSѓSЋ, [R’S–R»SЊSЏRј RџRµSЂSЃS–RIR°R»SЊ] RљSЂRѕR·S–S”SЂ, S‚RѕRgS–S€RЅS–R№ SЂRµRgR°RyeS‚RѕSЂ "TђR°SЂRgS–R°RЅ".Rџ.: R§Rё RїRµSЂRµRg R’R°S€RёRј RIRёS—R·RgRѕRј R±SѓRgSЊ-S…S‚Rѕ RI "RњR°RЅS‡RµSЃS‚RµSЂ T‘R°SЂRgS–R°RЅ" RїSЂRѕS–RЅSЃS‚SЂSѓRyeS‚SѓRIR°RI R’R°SЃ RїSЂRѕ SЃS‚R°RЅRѕRIRёS‰Rµ RI R R°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRѕRјSѓ RЎRѕSЋR·S–? R§Rё R±SѓRgSЊ-S…S‚Rѕ RїS–RgRiRѕS‚SѓRIR°RI R’R°SЃ RgRѕ S‚RѕRiRѕ, S‰Rѕ R’Rё S‚R°Rј RјR°R»Rё RїRѕR±R°S‡RёS‚Rё?

R’S–RЅ RїSЂRёSЃR»R°RI RјRµRЅS– S–RЅS„RѕSЂRјR°S†S–R№RЅRµ RїRѕRIS–RgRѕRјR»RµRЅRЅSЏ RїSЂRѕ SЏRyeSѓSЃSЊ RѕSЃRѕR±R»RёRIRѕ R±SЂSѓS‚R°R»SЊRЅSѓ RїRѕRIRµRgS–RЅRyeSѓ TђRџRЈ, R· RЅRµRIRµR»RёS‡RyeRѕSЋ, RgRѕSЃRёS‚SЊ SЃR°SЂRyeR°SЃS‚RёS‡RЅRѕSЋ RgRѕRїRёSЃRyeRѕSЋ: "RњRѕR¶Rµ RIRё R±SѓRgRµS‚Rµ R»R°SЃRyeR°RIS– S†Rµ RїRѕSЏSЃRЅRёS‚Rё".

R¦Rµ R±SѓRI R»RёS€Rµ RЅRµR·RЅR°S‡RЅRёR№ RµRїS–R·RѕRg, R°R»Rµ RIS–RЅ RїRѕRyeR°R·SѓS”, S‰Rѕ RЅR° S‚RѕR№ S‡R°SЃ SЃR°RјRµ SЏ R±SѓRI RїSЂRѕSЂR°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRё RЅR°R»R°S€S‚RѕRIR°RЅRёR№, S‚RѕRgS– SЏRye SЂRµRgR°RyeS‚RѕSЂRё RISЃRµ S‰Rµ RјR°R»Rё RїRµRIRЅS– SЃSѓRјRЅS–RIRё, S…RѕS‡R° R№ RIRѕRЅRё SЃS…RёR»SЏR»RёSЃSЏ RgRѕ SЃRёRјRїR°S‚RёR·SѓRIR°RЅRЅSЏ. RђRgR¶Rµ RIRѕRЅRё R±SѓR»Rё R»S–R±RµSЂR°R»Rё, RIS–SЂRёR»Rё RI RgRµRјRѕRyeSЂR°S‚S–SЋ S‚R° S–RЅS€S– RїRѕRgS–R±RЅS– SЂRµS‡S–.

Rџ.: RЎRµSЂRµRg RїRёS‚R°RЅSЊ, SЏRyeS– RѕR±SЃS‚RѕSЋRIR°R»R° Sѓ S†RµR№ S‡R°SЃ "RњR°RЅS‡RµSЃS‚RµSЂ TђR°SЂRgS–R°RЅ" SЏRye RїSЂRѕRIS–RgRЅR° R»S–R±RµSЂR°R»SЊRЅR° RiR°R·RµS‚R°, R±SѓR»Rѕ R¶R°R»SЋRiS–RgRЅRµ SЃS‚R°RЅRѕRIRёS‰Rµ R·RЅR°S‡RЅRѕS— SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕS— RјRµRЅS€RѕSЃS‚S– RїS–Rg RїRѕR»SЊSЃSЊRyeRѕSЋ RIR»R°RgRѕSЋ. R§Rё RїRµSЂRµRg RIS–Rg’S—R·RgRѕRј RgRѕ RњRѕSЃRyeRIRё R’Rё R±SѓR»Rё S…RѕS‡ S‚SЂRѕS…Rё R·R°S†S–RyeR°RIR»RµRЅS– RI SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕRјSѓ RїRёS‚R°RЅRЅS–? R§Rё R±SѓR»Rё R’Rё, RgRѕ SЂRµS‡S–, SЃRIS–RgRѕRјS– S–SЃRЅSѓRIR°RЅRЅSЏ R±SѓRgSЊ-SЏRyeRѕS— "SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕS— RїSЂRѕR±R»RµRјRё" RI R R°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRѕRјSѓ RЎRѕSЋR·S–?

R’.: RќR° R¶R°R»SЊ, RЅRµ RјRѕR¶Sѓ SЃRyeR°R·R°S‚Rё, S‰Rѕ SЏ S†RёRј RgSѓR¶Rµ S†S–RyeR°RIRёRISЃSЏ. RЇ RјR°RI RgRѕSЃRёS‚SЊ S‚SѓRјR°RЅRЅRµ R·R°RiR°R»SЊRЅRµ SѓSЏRIR»RµRЅRЅSЏ RїSЂRѕ RISЃSЋ RyeSЂR°S—RЅSѓ R·R°RiR°R»RѕRј, R°R»Rµ RЅRµ R·RЅR°RI RЅS–SЏRyeRёS… RїRѕRgSЂRѕR±RёS†SЊ RїSЂRѕ S†Rµ. RЇ RїSЂRёRiR°RgSѓSЋ R·RЅRѕRISѓ, S‰Rѕ RyeRѕR»Rё RЅR° RјRµRЅRµ RЅR°S…RѕRgRёRI RїSЂRѕSЂR°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRёR№ SЃRµRЅS‚RёRјRµRЅS‚, SЏ RѕR±RiRѕRIRѕSЂSЋRIR°RI R· R’RµR±R±R°RјRё RЅR°S†S–RѕRЅR°R»SЊRЅRµ RїRёS‚R°RЅRЅSЏ.

RЈ SЂRѕR·RјRѕRIS– RјRё RIRёSЃR»RѕRIR»SЋRIR°R»Rё SЃRIRѕSЋ RїRµRIRЅS–SЃS‚SЊ Sѓ S‚RѕRјSѓ, S‰Rѕ RЎS‚R°R»S–RЅ S‚SЂRёRјR°S” RЅR°S†S–RѕRЅR°R»SЊRЅRµ RїRёS‚R°RЅRЅSЏ RI SЃRIRѕS—S… SЂSѓRyeR°S…, RѕS‚R¶Rµ, RјRё RјRѕRiR»Rё R±SѓS‚Rё SЃRїRѕRyeS–R№RЅS–, S‰Rѕ RIS–RЅ S†S–S”SЋ SЃRїSЂR°RIRѕSЋ R·R°R№RјRµS‚SЊSЃSЏ RµS„RµRyeS‚RёRIRЅRѕ S‚R° RgR±R°R№R»RёRIRѕ. RЎR°RјRµ RI S‚R°RyeRѕRјSѓ RЅR°SЃS‚SЂRѕS— SЏ RIRёS—R·RgRёRI.

Rџ.: R§Rё R±SѓR»Rѕ S‰RѕSЃSЊ RIS–RgRѕRјRѕ RїSЂRѕ RiRѕR»RѕRg S‡Rё RiRѕR»RѕRgSѓRIR°RЅRЅSЏ RI R R°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRѕRјSѓ RЎRѕSЋR·S– RїRµSЂRµRg R’R°S€RёRј RIRёS—R·RgRѕRј?

R’.: RќR°RgS…RѕRgRёR»R° RgRµSЏRyeR° S–RЅS„RѕSЂRјR°S†S–SЏ RїSЂRѕ R±SЂR°Rye S…R°SЂS‡S–RI, R°R»Rµ RIRѕRЅR° R±SѓR»R° RgRѕSЃRёS‚SЊ RЅRµRїRµRIRЅR°. R‘RµR·SЃSѓRјRЅS–RIRЅRѕ, RIRѕRЅR° RЅR°RIS–S‚SЊ RїSЂRёR±R»RёR·RЅRѕ RЅRµ RIS–RgRѕR±SЂR°R¶R°R»R° SЃRїSЂR°RIR¶RЅSЊRѕRiRѕ SЃS‚R°RЅRѕRIRёS‰R°. RџSЂRёS…RёR»SЊRЅRёRyeRё R R°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ RЎRѕSЋR·Sѓ RgR°RIR°R»Rё RїSЂRѕ S†Rµ SЂS–R·RЅS– RїRѕSЏSЃRЅRµRЅRЅSЏ, SЃRµSЂRµRg RЅRёS… S– S‚Rµ, S‰Rѕ S…R°SЂS‡ R±SѓRI, R°R»Rµ S–SЃRЅSѓRIR°R»Rё S‚SЂSѓRgRЅRѕS‰S– RI R№RѕRiRѕ SЂRѕR·RїRѕRgS–R»S–.

RќRµ RјRѕR¶Sѓ SЃRyeR°R·R°S‚Rё, S‰Rѕ R±SѓR»R° SЏRyeR°SЃSЊ RgSѓR¶Rµ RyeRѕRЅRyeSЂRµS‚RЅR° S–RЅS„RѕSЂRјR°S†S–SЏ. RЇRye R±S–R»SЊS€S–SЃS‚SЊ R¶SѓSЂRЅR°R»S–SЃS‚S–RI, SЏ S—R·RgRёRI Sѓ RјS–SЃS†SЏ, RїSЂRѕ SЏRyeS– RЅS–S‡RѕRiRѕ RЅRµ R·RЅR°RI, S– RїRёSЃR°RI RїSЂRѕ RЅRёS… R·RIS–RgS‚S–R»SЏ, R·RЅR°SЋS‡Rё S‰Rµ RјRµRЅS€Rµ.

Rџ.: R— R’R°S€RѕRiRѕ S‰RѕRgRµRЅRЅRёRyeR° RIRёRїR»RёRIR°S”, S‰Rѕ RIS–Rg RїRµSЂS€RѕRiRѕ RgRЅSЏ R’R°S€RѕRiRѕ RїRµSЂRµR±SѓRIR°RЅRЅSЏ RI RњRѕSЃRyeRIS– S‚RµRјR° RiRѕR»RѕRgSѓ RЅR°SЃS‚RёSЂR»RёRIRѕ RIRёSЃS–R»R° RI RїRѕRIS–S‚SЂS–. RќR°SЃRyeS–R»SЊRyeRё RIR°R¶R»RёRIR° R±SѓR»R° S†SЏ S‚RµRјR° RgR»SЏ R’R°SЃ?

R’.: R’RѕRЅR° R±SѓR»R° RЅR°RgR·RIRёS‡R°R№RЅRѕ RIR°R¶R»RёRIR°. RќR°SЃR°RјRїRµSЂRµRg RЅRµ S‚SЂRµR±R° R±SѓR»Rѕ R±SѓS‚Rё SЃRїRµS†S–R°R»S–SЃS‚RѕRј, S‰RѕR± RїRѕR±R°S‡RёS‚Rё, S‰Rѕ R»SЋRgRё RI RњRѕSЃRyeRIS– R±SѓR»Rё RiRѕR»RѕRgRЅS–. R’RѕRЅRё RјR°R»Rё RѕSЃRѕR±R»RёRIRѕ R·R°S…RёSЂS–R»RёR№ RIRёRiR»SЏRg.

RћS‡RµRIRёRgRЅRѕ, S‰Rѕ S‚R°Rј R±SѓR»Rё S–RЅS€S– R¶SѓSЂRЅR°R»S–SЃS‚Rё, SЏRyeS– RїSЂRѕ S†Rµ RiRѕRIRѕSЂRёR»Rё RѕRgRIRµSЂS‚Rѕ, R·RѕRyeSЂRµRјR° Rђ. Rў. R§RѕR»RµSЂS‚RѕRЅ, RyeRѕSЂRµSЃRїRѕRЅRgRµRЅS‚ RiR°R·RµS‚Rё "RќSЊSЋR· RyeSЂRѕRЅS–RyeR»", SЏRyeRёR№ SЃS‚R°RI RјRѕS—Rј R±R»RёR·SЊRyeRёRј RїSЂRёSЏS‚RµR»RµRј. R’R»R°SЃRЅRµ, SЂR°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeR° RїSЂRµSЃR° RїRѕRgR°RIR°R»R° RgRµSЏRyeSѓ S–RЅS„RѕSЂRјR°S†S–SЋ RїSЂRѕ RIRµR»RёRyeS– S‚SЂSѓRgRЅRѕS‰S– R· S…R°SЂS‡R°RјRё, R·RѕRyeSЂRµRјR° RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅS– S‚R° RЅR° RљR°RIRyeR°R·S–.

Rџ.: R§Rё RјR°R»Rё R’Rё S‰Rµ R№ S–RЅS€S– RјRѕR¶R»RёRIRѕSЃS‚S– RgS–SЃS‚R°RIR°S‚Rё S–RЅS„RѕSЂRјR°S†S–SЋ RїSЂRѕ RiRѕR»RѕRg?

R’.: RЇRye SЏ RIR¶Rµ RyeR°R·R°RI, SЂR°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeSѓ RїSЂRµSЃSѓ S‚SЂRµR±R° S‡RёS‚R°S‚Rё RgSѓR¶Rµ SѓRIR°R¶RЅRѕ. RњRё R·RЅR°R»Rё, S‰Rѕ RISЃRµ S†Rµ R±SѓR»Rѕ RgSѓR¶Rµ SЃS‚R°SЂR°RЅRЅRѕ S†RµRЅR·SѓSЂRѕRIR°RЅRµ, RѕRgRЅR°Rye, S–R· S†SЊRѕRiRѕ RјRѕR¶RЅR° R±SѓR»Rѕ RgS–SЃS‚R°S‚Rё RgRµSЏRyeSѓ S–RЅS„RѕSЂRјR°S†S–SЋ.

RљSЂS–Rј S–RЅS€RёS… RyeRѕSЂRµSЃRїRѕRЅRgRµRЅS‚S–RI, Sѓ S‚S– S‡R°SЃRё S‰Rµ S–SЃRЅSѓRIR°R»Rё SЃRIRѕS”SЂS–RgRЅS– RјS–R·RµSЂRЅS– R·R°R»RёS€RyeRё SЃS‚R°SЂRѕS— R±SѓSЂR¶SѓR°R·RЅRѕS— S–RЅS‚RµR»S–RiRµRЅS†S–S—, R· SЏRyeRёRјRё RјRѕR¶RЅR° R±SѓR»Rѕ R·SѓSЃS‚SЂS–S‡R°S‚RёSЃSЏ S– SЏRyeS– RiRѕRIRѕSЂRёR»Rё, S‰Rѕ RјRµRЅS– RїS–R·RЅS–S€Rµ R·RgR°RIR°R»RѕSЃSЏ RgSѓR¶Rµ R±RµR·SЃS‚SЂR°S€RЅRёRј, RїSЂRѕ S‚Rµ, S‰Rѕ RgS–SЏR»RѕSЃSЏ. RЇ RѕSЃRѕR±R»RёRIRѕ R·R°RїR°Rј’SЏS‚R°RI RѕRgRЅRѕRiRѕ R· RЅRёS…, RђRЅRgSЂRµR№S‡RёRЅR°, SЏRyeRёR№, SЏ RgSѓRјR°SЋ, R±SѓRI R±RѕR»RiR°SЂSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ RїRѕS…RѕRgR¶RµRЅRЅSЏ.

R›SЋRgRё, R· SЏRyeRёRјRё RјRё R·SѓSЃS‚SЂS–S‡R°R»RёSЃSЏ, RЅRµ R±SѓR»Rё S‰Rµ RIRїRѕRIRЅS– R·R°RјRyeRЅRµRЅS– RI SЂRµR¶RёRјRЅS– SЂR°RјRyeRё. R’RѕRЅRё SЃRёRјRїR°S‚RёR·SѓRIR°R»Rё SЂRµR¶RёRјRѕRIS–, S‡R°SЃS‚Rѕ RјR°R»Rё RgRѕR±SЂS– RїRѕSЃR°RgRё, R°R»Rµ RIS–Rg RЅRёS… S‚R°RyeRѕR¶ RјRѕR¶RЅR° R±SѓR»Rѕ RgS–SЃS‚R°S‚Rё R·R°RiR°R»SЊRЅRµ SѓSЏRIR»RµRЅRЅSЏ RїSЂRѕ SЃS‚R°RЅ SЃRїSЂR°RI.

R©Rµ S–RЅS€RёRј RgR¶RµSЂRµR»RѕRј S–RЅS„RѕSЂRјR°S†S–S— R±SѓR»Rё RїRѕSЃRѕR»SЊSЃS‚RIR°. R‘SЂRёS‚R°RЅSЃSЊRyeRµ RїRѕSЃRѕR»SЊSЃS‚RIRѕ R±SѓR»Rѕ RgSѓR¶Rµ RyeRѕSЂRёSЃRЅRµ, R°R»Rµ R·R° RјRѕS—S… S‡R°SЃS–RI SЃRyeR°RЅRgRёRЅR°RISЃSЊRyeS– RїRѕSЃRѕR»SЊSЃS‚RIR° R±SѓR»Rё RЅR°R№RyeSЂR°S‰S– S‰RѕRgRѕ S‚R°RyeRёS… RїRёS‚R°RЅSЊ. R’RѕRЅRё R·RЅR°R»Rё R±R°RiR°S‚Rѕ RїSЂRѕ S‚Rµ, S‰Rѕ RgS–SЏR»RѕSЃSЏ, S– RyeRѕR»Rё SЏ RIRёS—S…R°RI RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅSѓ, RIRѕRЅRё R±R°RiR°S‚Rѕ RјRµRЅS– RgRѕRїRѕRјRѕRiR»Rё, RgR°SЋS‡Rё RїRѕSЂR°RgRё, RyeSѓRgRё S—S…R°S‚Rё.

RќR°R№R±S–R»SЊS€Rµ RgRѕRїRѕRјS–Ri RјRµRЅS– S‡RѕR»RѕRIS–Rye, S‰Rѕ R·RIR°RISЃSЏ RЈSЂR±Rµ. R‘R°RiR°S‚Rѕ SЂRѕRyeS–RI RIS–RЅ RїRµSЂRµR±SѓRIR°RI Sѓ RњRѕSЃRyeRIS– SЏRye RiRµRЅRµSЂR°R»SЊRЅRёR№ RyeRѕRЅSЃSѓR» S– R±SѓRI RgSѓR¶Rµ S†S–RЅRЅRёRј RgR¶RµSЂRµR»RѕRј S–RЅS„RѕSЂRјR°S†S–S— RїSЂRѕ RyeR°S‚R°SЃS‚SЂRѕS„S–S‡RЅS– RЅR°SЃR»S–RgRyeRё RyeRѕR»RµRyeS‚RёRIS–R·R°S†S–S—.

Rџ.: RЈ SЃRIRѕS”RјSѓ S‰RѕRgRµRЅRЅRёRyeSѓ R’Rё R·RiR°RgSѓS”S‚Rµ RїSЂRѕ RIRёRїR°RgRѕRye, RyeRѕR»Rё RgRѕ R’R°SЃ R·’SЏRIRёRISЃSЏ S‡RѕR»RѕRIS–Rye R· RџS–RIRЅS–S‡RЅRѕRiRѕ RљR°RIRyeR°R·Sѓ, S‰RѕR± RїRѕRiRѕRIRѕSЂRёS‚Rё RїSЂRѕ R¶R°S…R»RёRIS– SѓRјRѕRIRё RI S†SЊRѕRјSѓ SЂR°R№RѕRЅS–. R—RiS–RgRЅRѕ R· R’R°S€RёRј R·RIS–S‚RѕRј S‚Rµ, S‰Rѕ S†RµR№ RїSЂRѕS‚RѕS‚RёRї SЂR°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ RgRёSЃRёRgRµRЅS‚R° R’R°Rј SЂRѕR·RїRѕRIS–RI, RЅR°SЃS‚S–R»SЊRyeRё R’R°SЃ RїSЂRёRiRѕR»RѕRјS€RёR»Rѕ, S‰Rѕ RIRё RIRёSЂS–S€RёR»Rё RїRѕS–RЅS„RѕSЂRјSѓRIR°S‚Rё S‡RёS‚R°S‡S–RI "RњR°RЅS‡RµSЃS‚RµSЂ TђR°SЂRgS–R°RЅ" RїSЂRѕ RїRѕRIRѕRgR¶RµRЅRЅSЏ SЂR°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ SѓSЂSЏRgSѓ R· SЃRµR»SЏRЅR°RјRё. R§Rё R’Rё RјRѕR¶RµS‚Rµ RїSЂRёRiR°RgR°S‚Rё S‰Rµ S‰RѕSЃSЊ RїSЂRѕ S†RµR№ RµRїS–R·RѕRg?

R’.: R‘RѕSЋSЃSЏ, S‰Rѕ RЅRµR±R°RiR°S‚Rѕ. RGS–R±R° S‚Rµ, S‰Rѕ RISЃS– RyeRѕSЂRµSЃRїRѕRЅRgRµRЅS‚Rё RgSѓR¶Rµ RЅRµSЂRISѓRIR°R»RёSЃSЏ, RIRIR°R¶R°SЋS‡Rё, S‰Rѕ S†RµR№ S‡RѕR»RѕRIS–Rye RјS–Ri R±SѓS‚Rё RїSЂRѕRIRѕRyeR°S‚RѕSЂRѕRј. R’Rё SЂRѕR·SѓRјS–S”S‚Rµ, SЏRyeS‰Rѕ RјR°S”S€ S‚R°RyeRµ SЃSѓSЃRїS–R»SЊSЃS‚RIRѕ, R·R° S†Rµ S‚SЂRµR±R° RїR»R°S‚RёS‚Rё. R’SЂRµS€S‚S–-SЂRµS€S‚, R·RgR°RIR°R»RѕSЃSЏ S‚R°RyeRёRј RЅRµR№RјRѕRIS–SЂRЅRёRј, S‰RѕR± S…S‚RѕSЃSЊ RјR°RI RIS–RgRIR°RiSѓ RїSЂRёR№S‚Rё RїRѕRiRѕRIRѕSЂRёS‚Rё R· R·R°RyeRѕSЂRgRѕRЅRЅRёRјRё RyeRѕSЂRµSЃRїRѕRЅRgRµRЅS‚R°RјRё.

RЇ RIRїRѕRIRЅS– RїRµSЂRµRyeRѕRЅR°RЅRёR№, S‰Rѕ RIS–RЅ RЅRµ R±SѓRI RїSЂRѕRIRѕRyeR°S‚RѕSЂRѕRј. RќR°Rј SѓSЃS–Rј R±SѓR»Rѕ, RѕRgRЅR°S‡Rµ, RЅS–SЏRyeRѕRIRѕ. R”S–RIS‡RёRЅR°, S‰Rѕ RїSЂR°S†SЋRIR°R»R° RI RјRµRЅRµ SЃRµRyeSЂRµS‚R°SЂRyeRѕSЋ S– RgRѕRїRѕRјR°RiR°R»R° RјRµRЅS– RїRµSЂRµRyeR»R°RgR°S‚Rё R· SЂRѕSЃS–R№SЃSЊRyeRѕS— RјRѕRIRё, RЅRµ S…RѕS‚S–R»R° RјR°S‚Rё R· RЅRёRј RЅS–S‡RѕRiRѕ SЃRїS–R»SЊRЅRѕRiRѕ S– R±SѓR»R° RїRµSЂRµRyeRѕRЅR°RЅR°, S‰Rѕ S‚Rѕ R±SѓRI R°T‘RµRЅS‚ TђRџRЈ.

Rџ.: RЇRyeRѕSЋ R±SѓR»R° R·R°RiR°R»SЊRЅR° SЂRµR°RyeS†S–SЏ R·R°S…S–RgRЅRёS… RyeRѕSЂRµSЃRїRѕRЅRgRµRЅS‚S–RI Sѓ RњRѕSЃRyeRIS– RЅR° RїRѕRIS–RgRѕRјR»RµRЅRЅSЏ RїSЂRѕ RiRѕR»RѕRg?

R’.: R’RѕRЅRё RISЃS– S‚S–R»SЊRyeRё R№ RiRѕRIRѕSЂRёR»Rё RїSЂRѕ RiRѕR»RѕRg S– RISЃS– RЅR°RјR°RiR°R»RёSЃSЏ RgS–SЃS‚R°S‚RёSЃSЏ RЅR° RјS–SЃS†SЏ RiRѕR»RѕRgSѓ. RђR»Rµ RgRѕR±RёS‚RёSЃSЏ S‚SѓRgRё R±SѓR»Rѕ RЅRµR»RµRiRyeRѕ. R† SЏ S‚RѕRgS– R·SЂRѕR±RёRI S‚Rµ, S‰Rѕ SЂRѕR±RёRI RI S–RЅS€S– RїRµSЂS–RѕRgRё SЃRIRѕRiRѕ R¶RёS‚S‚SЏ, – SЏ RїRѕSЃS‚R°SЂR°RISЃSЏ RїSЂRѕSЃS‚Rѕ SЃS–SЃS‚Rё RЅR° RїRѕS—R·Rg S– S‚SѓRgRё RїRѕS—S…R°S‚Rё.

Rџ.: RљRѕR»Rё S‡RёS‚R°S”S€ R’R°S€ S‰RѕRgRµRЅRЅRёRye, RISЂR°R¶R°S”, SЏRye S€RIRёRgRyeRѕ R’R°SЃ SЃRїS–S‚RyeR°R»Rѕ SЂRѕR·S‡R°SЂSѓRIR°RЅRЅSЏ R R°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRёRј RЎRѕSЋR·RѕRј. RЇRye SЃS‚R°R»RѕSЃSЏ, S‰Rѕ R»RµRgRIRµ RјRёRЅSѓR»Rѕ S‡RѕS‚RёSЂRё RјS–SЃSЏS†S– R’R°S€RѕRiRѕ RїRµSЂRµR±SѓRIR°RЅRЅSЏ RI RњRѕSЃRyeRIS–, R° R’Rё R·R°RїRёSЃR°R»Rё: "RњRµRЅS– R±R°R№RgSѓR¶Rµ, SЏRye S€RIRёRgRyeRѕ SЏ R·R°R»RёS€Sѓ R RѕSЃS–SЋ"?

R’.: RќRµ R·R°R±SѓRIR°R№S‚Rµ, S‰Rѕ SЏ RIS–SЂRёRI Sѓ SЂRµR¶RёRј, R° RЅRµ RI SЏRyeRёR№SЃSЊ RѕRyeSЂRµRјRёR№ R№RѕRiRѕ R°SЃRїRµRyeS‚. RGRѕS‡ SЏ RЅRµ RgSѓRјR°RI, S‰Rѕ RIS–RЅ RјR°S” R±SѓS‚Rё S–RgRµR°R»SЊRЅRёRј, SЏ RISЃRµ-S‚R°RyeRё RIRIR°R¶R°RI, S‰Rѕ S†Rµ R±SѓR»R° R°R»SЊS‚RµSЂRЅR°S‚RёRIR°.

RЇ RЅRµ RїSЂRёS—S…R°RI R· SЏRyeRёRјRёSЃSЊ S–RgRµR°R»S–R·RѕRIR°RЅRёRјRё RїRѕRiR»SЏRgR°RјRё RЅR° S‚Rµ, SЏRyeRёRј S‚SѓS‚ RјRѕR¶Rµ R±SѓS‚Rё R¶RёS‚S‚SЏ, R°R»Rµ R±SѓRI RїRµSЂRµRyeRѕRЅR°RЅRёR№, S‰Rѕ RјRµS‚RѕSЋ RISЃSЊRѕRiRѕ S‚RѕRiRѕ R±SѓR»Rѕ R·SЂRѕR±RёS‚Rё R»SЋRgRµR№ RIS–R»SЊRЅRёRјRё S‚R° S‰R°SЃR»RёRIRёRјRё, R·SЂRѕR±RёS‚Rё S—S…RЅS– RIR·R°S”RјRёRЅRё R±SЂR°S‚RµSЂSЃSЊRyeRёRјRё. RџRѕR±SѓRIS€Rё S‚R°Rј R»RёS€Rµ RyeRѕSЂRѕS‚RyeRёR№ S‡R°SЃ, SЏ RїRѕR±R°S‡RёRI, S‰Rѕ S†Rµ RЅRµ S‚R°Rye.

Rџ.: R’R°S€R° RїRµSЂS€R° RїRѕRgRѕSЂRѕR¶ RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅSѓ RIS–RgR±SѓR»R°SЃSЏ RЅR° RїRѕS‡R°S‚RyeSѓ R¶RѕRIS‚RЅSЏ 1932 SЂRѕRyeSѓ, RyeRѕR»Rё RiSЂSѓRїSѓ R·R°RyeRѕSЂRgRѕRЅRЅRёS… RyeRѕSЂRµSЃRїRѕRЅRgRµRЅS‚S–RI RїRѕRIRµR·R»Rё, S‰RѕR± RїRѕRyeR°R·R°S‚Rё R”RЅS–RїSЂRѕR±SѓRg. R’Rё R·R°SѓRIR°R¶RёR»Rё RI SЃRIRѕS”RјSѓ S‰RѕRgRµRЅRЅRёRyeSѓ, S‰Rѕ RїRѕRgRѕSЂRѕR¶ R’R°SЃ RїSЂRёRiRЅS–S‚RёR»R°. R§Rё R’Rё RјRѕR¶RµS‚Rµ RїSЂRёRiR°RgR°S‚Rё, S‡RѕRјSѓ RIRѕRЅR° SЃRїSЂR°RIRёR»R° RЅR° R’R°SЃ S‚R°RyeRµ RISЂR°R¶RµRЅRЅSЏ?

R’.: RњRѕSЏ RїRµSЂS€R° RїRѕRgRѕSЂRѕR¶ RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅSѓ R·SЂRѕR±RёR»R° RЅR° RјRµRЅRµ RgSѓR¶Rµ SЃRёR»SЊRЅRµ RISЂR°R¶RµRЅRЅSЏ S‡R°SЃS‚RyeRѕRIRѕ S‚RѕRјSѓ, S‰Rѕ RјRё S—S…R°R»Rё RI RїRѕS—R·RgS– R· RgSѓR¶Rµ RgRѕR±SЂRёRјRё RIS–RyeRЅR°RјRё S– RЅRµ RЅR°RgS‚Rѕ S€RIRёRgRyeRѕ RyeSЂS–R·SЊ RIRµR»RёRyeS– RїSЂRѕSЃS‚RѕSЂRё SЃS–R»SЊSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕSЃRїRѕRgR°SЂSЃSЊRyeRѕS— RyeSЂR°S—RЅRё. R‘SѓR»Rѕ S†S–R»RyeRѕRј SЏSЃRЅRѕ, S‰Rѕ S†SЏ S‡R°SЃS‚RёRЅR° RyeSЂR°S—RЅRё RїRµSЂRµR±SѓRIR°S” RI RgSѓR¶Rµ R¶R°R»SЋRiS–RgRЅRѕRјSѓ SЃS‚R°RЅS–. RќR° RїRµSЂRѕRЅR°S… S‚RёRЅSЏR»RѕSЃSЏ R±R°RiR°S‚Rѕ R»SЋRgRµR№, S‰Rѕ R±SѓR»Rё RgSѓR¶Rµ RiRѕR»RѕRgRЅS–. Rђ RgRѕ S‚RѕRiRѕ S‰Rµ R№ SЃRїRѕSЃS–R±, SЏRye SѓSЃSЋ S‚Sѓ RїRѕS—R·RgRyeSѓ RIR»R°S€S‚RѕRIR°RЅRѕ, RIRyeR»SЋS‡RЅRѕ R· RѕSЂRyeRµSЃS‚SЂRѕRј S‚R° RїRµSЂS€RѕRyeR»R°SЃRЅRѕSЋ RѕR±SЃR»SѓRiRѕSЋ.

RўR°RyeRѕR¶ RЅR° R”RЅS–RїSЂRѕR±SѓRgS– R±SѓR»Rѕ RIS–RgS‡SѓS‚S‚SЏ, S‰Rѕ R№RѕRiRѕ R±SѓRgRѕRIR°RЅRѕ SЃRёR»RѕSЋ. RЎR°RјRµ S‚RѕRgS– SЏ RgS–R№S€RѕRI RgRѕ RїRµSЂRµRyeRѕRЅR°RЅRЅSЏ, S‰Rѕ SЂRµR¶RёRј R±SѓRI R¶R°S…R»RёRIRёR№, S‰Rѕ RЅR°SЃRїSЂR°RIRgS– RIS–RЅ R±R°R·SѓRIR°RISЃSЏ RЅRµ RЅR° S–RgRµR°R»R°S… S‡Rё S–RgRµR°R»S–R·RјS–, R° RЅR° SЃRёR»S–, S‚R° S‰Rѕ R№RѕRiRѕ RјRµS‚RѕSЋ R±SѓR»Rѕ RIRёRyeR»RёRyeR°S‚Rё SЃS‚SЂR°S….

Rџ.: R§Rё S‚SЏR¶RyeRѕ R±SѓR»Rѕ R’R°Rј RЅRµ RїS–RgRgR°S‚RёSЃSЏ SЂR°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeS–R№ RїSЂRѕRїR°RiR°RЅRgS–?

R’.: RЇ RiR°RgR°SЋ, S‰Rѕ S†Rµ, RјR°R±SѓS‚SЊ, R±SѓR»Rѕ RIR°R¶S‡Rµ, RЅS–R¶ SЏ RgSѓRјR°RI. RђR»Rµ RgR»SЏ RјRµRЅRµ R·R°RIR¶RgRё R±SѓR»Rѕ RЅRµSЃS‚RµSЂRїRЅRёRј, RyeRѕR»Rё S…S‚RѕSЃSЊ RЅR°RyeRёRgR°RI RјRµRЅS– SЃRIRѕS— RїRѕRiR»SЏRgRё, S– S‡RёRј R±S–R»SЊS€Rµ RјRµRЅS– RЅR°RјR°RiR°R»RёSЃSЏ RЅR°RI’SЏR·R°S‚Rё SЃRIRѕSЋ RgSѓRјRyeSѓ, S‚RёRј SЃRёR»SЊRЅS–S€RёR№ R±SѓRI RјS–R№ S–RЅSЃS‚RёRЅRyeS‚RёRIRЅRёR№ RѕRїS–SЂ.

RўR°RyeRѕR¶ RјS–R¶ R·R°RyeRѕSЂRgRѕRЅRЅRёRјRё R¶SѓSЂRЅR°R»S–SЃS‚R°RјRё R±SѓR»Rѕ S‡RёRјR°R»Rѕ RIS–RgRIRµSЂS‚RёS… SЂRѕR·RјRѕRI, S…R°SЂR°RyeS‚RµSЂRЅRёS… SЃRIRѕS”SЋ RIRµR»RёRyeRѕSЋ S–RЅS„RѕSЂRјR°S‚RёRIRЅS–SЃS‚SЋ S‚R° RgSѓR¶Rµ SЂRµR°R»S–SЃS‚RёS‡RЅRѕSЋ RѕS†S–RЅRyeRѕSЋ SЃS‚R°RЅRѕRIRёS‰R°.

R›RёS€Rµ RgRIR° S‡Rё S‚SЂRё R· RЅRёS… R±R°R·S–RyeR°R»Rё R· RїR°SЂS‚S–R№RЅRёS… RїRѕR·RёS†S–R№. RћRgRёRЅ R±SѓRI RyeRѕSЂRµSЃRїRѕRЅRgRµRЅS‚RѕRј "RќSЊSЋ SЂS–RїR°R±R»S–Rye" S– R°RIS‚RѕSЂRѕRј RyeRЅRёR¶RyeRё "R§RµSЂRIRѕRЅRёR№ S…R»S–R±". RўR° RIRѕRЅRё, RѕS‡RµRIRёRgSЏS‡RyeRё, R±SѓR»Rё RIRёS‚RIRѕSЂRѕRј SЂRµR¶RёRјSѓ.

Rџ: Rђ S‰Rѕ R’Rё SЃRyeR°R¶RµS‚Rµ RїSЂRѕ R’RѕR»S‚RµSЂR° R”SЋSЂR°RЅS‚S–?

R’.: RќSѓ, R·RIRёS‡R°R№RЅRѕ, R”SЋSЂR°RЅS‚S– R±SѓRI R»RёS…RѕRgS–S”Rј SѓSЃS–S”S— SЃRїSЂR°RIRё. R’S–RЅ R±SѓRI RyeRѕSЂRµSЃRїRѕRЅRgRµRЅS‚RѕRј "RќSЊSЋ-R™RѕSЂRye S‚R°R№RјR·" S– R±R°RiR°S‚Rѕ RI S‡RѕRјSѓ RЅR°R№R·RЅR°S‡RЅS–S€RёRј R· RyeRѕSЂRµSЃRїRѕRЅRgRµRЅS‚S–RI. R¦Rµ R±SѓRI RgSѓR¶Rµ RgRѕRїRёS‚R»RёRIRёR№ S‡RѕR»RѕRIS–Rye R· RѕRgRЅS–S”SЋ RЅRѕRiRѕSЋ. R’S–RЅ R±SѓRI R°RЅRiR»S–S”S†SЊ S–SЂR»R°RЅRgSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ RїRѕS…RѕRgR¶RµRЅRЅSЏ. RЇ RјRѕR¶Sѓ R№RѕRiRѕ R±R°S‡RёS‚Rё R»RёS€Rµ SЏRye SЃRIRѕS”SЂS–RgRЅSѓ SЂRµR¶RёRјRЅSѓ RјR°SЂS–RѕRЅRµS‚RyeSѓ, S– RјRµRЅS– RїSЂRѕSЃS‚Rѕ S‚SЏR¶RyeRѕ SѓSЏRIRёS‚Rё SЃRѕR±S– R№RѕRiRѕ RI SЏRyeS–R№SЃSЊ S–RЅS€S–R№ SЂRѕR»S–.

RўRµ, S‰Rѕ RIS–RЅ RїRёSЃR°RI RїSЂRѕ RiRѕR»RѕRg S– SЃS‚R°RЅRѕRIRёS‰Rµ RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅS–, R±SѓR»Rѕ S„R°RЅS‚R°SЃS‚RёS‡RЅRѕ S„R°R»SЊS€RёRIRµ. RќRµ RјRѕR¶Rµ R±SѓS‚Rё RЅR°R№RјRµRЅS€RѕRiRѕ SЃSѓRјRЅS–RISѓ RI S‚RѕRјSѓ, S‰Rѕ RIR»R°RgR° RјRѕRiR»R° RЅRёRј RјR°RЅS–RїSѓR»SЋRIR°S‚Rё S– S‰Rѕ RIS–RЅ R±R°R¶R°RI R·R°R»RёS€RёS‚RёSЃSЏ RI R R°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRѕRјSѓ RЎRѕSЋR·S–. R™RѕRiRѕ RyeRѕS…R°RЅRyeRѕSЋ R±SѓR»R° SЂRѕSЃS–SЏRЅRyeR°, SЏRye Sѓ R±R°RiR°S‚Rѕ S–RЅS€RёS… RyeRѕSЂRµSЃRїRѕRЅRgRµRЅS‚S–RI. R¦Rµ R±SѓRI RѕRgRёRЅ S–R· S€R»SЏS…S–RI, SЏRyeRёRјRё R·R°RyeRѕSЂRgRѕRЅRЅS– RyeRѕSЂRµSЃRїRѕRЅRgRµRЅS‚Rё RїS–RgRgR°RIR°R»RёSЃSЏ RIR»R°RgS–.

RЇ S‡R°SЃRѕRј RgSѓRјR°SЋ, S‰Rѕ RgS–RIS‡R°S‚ RЅR°RIRјRёSЃRЅRѕ SЃRїSЂSЏRјRѕRISѓRIR°R»Rё RI S—S…RЅSЊRѕRјSѓ RЅR°RїSЂSЏRјS– R· S‚RёRј, S‰RѕR± RїRѕSЃS‚R°RIRёS‚Rё RyeRѕSЂRµSЃRїRѕRЅRgRµRЅS‚S–RI RI S‚R°RyeRµ SЃS‚R°RЅRѕRIRёS‰Rµ. R”SЋSЂR°RЅS‚S– R±SѓRI S„R°RyeS‚RёS‡RЅRѕ RЅR° R»R°SЃS†S– SЂR°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRѕS— RIR»R°RgRё S– RISЂRµS€S‚S–-SЂRµS€S‚ RїRёSЃR°RI S‚Rµ, S‰Rѕ S—Rј R±SѓR»Rѕ RїRѕS‚SЂS–R±RЅRѕ. R’RёRgR°S”S‚SЊSЃSЏ, S‰Rѕ "RќSЊSЋ-R™RѕSЂRye S‚R°R№RјR·" R±SѓRI S†RёRј RgSѓR¶Rµ R·R°RgRѕRIRѕR»RµRЅRёR№. R’S–RЅ RgS–SЃS‚R°RI S‚SЂRё RЅR°RiRѕSЂRѕRgRё RџSѓR»S–S‚S†RµSЂR° S– RЅRµ RјR°RI S‡RѕRiRѕ RЅR°SЂS–RyeR°S‚Rё.

Rџ:. Rђ S‚R°RyeRѕR¶ RѕSЂRgRµRЅ R›RµRЅS–RЅR°, RЅR°SЃRyeS–R»SЊRyeRё RјRµRЅS– RIS–RgRѕRјRѕ.

R’.: RўR°Rye, S– S†Rµ S‚R°RyeRѕR¶.

Rџ.: R©Rѕ SЃRїRѕRЅSѓRyeR°R»Rѕ R’R°SЃ RїRѕS—S…R°S‚Rё S‰Rµ SЂR°R· RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅSѓ, S‰RѕR± T‘SЂSѓRЅS‚RѕRIRЅS–S€Rµ RgRѕSЃR»S–RgRёS‚Rё S‚R°RјS‚RµS€RЅS– SѓRјRѕRIRё?

R’.: R RѕR·RјRѕRIRё RјS–R¶ RyeRѕSЂRµSЃRїRѕRЅRgRµRЅS‚R°RјRё S– R·SѓSЃS‚SЂS–S‡S– R· R»SЋRgSЊRјRё, RiRѕR»RѕRIRЅRѕ SѓSЂSЏRgRѕRIS†SЏRјRё, S‰Rѕ RїRѕRIRµSЂRЅSѓR»RёSЃSЏ R·RIS–RgS‚Rё, RISЃRµ S‰Rµ R±SѓRIR°R»Rё RI S‚RѕRIR°SЂRёSЃS‚RIS– S– RЅRµ RїRѕRIS‚RѕSЂSЋRIR°R»Rё R±RµR· RyeS–RЅS†SЏ, SЏRye RїR°RїSѓRiRё, RїR°SЂS‚S–R№RЅS– RgRѕRiRјRё. R‘SѓR»Rѕ RѕS‡RµRIRёRgRЅRѕ, S‰Rѕ RiRѕR»RѕRg R±SѓRI.

RќR°RIS–S‚SЊ SЂR°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeR° RїSЂRµSЃR° RїRѕS‡R°R»R° RIS–RgRѕR±SЂR°R¶R°S‚Rё SЃRµSЂR№RѕR·RЅS–SЃS‚SЊ SЃS‚R°RЅRѕRIRёS‰R°. RЇ RIRёSЂS–S€RёRI, S‰Rѕ R·R±RµSЂSѓ S‚R°Rј RјR°S‚RµSЂS–R°R», SЏRyeRёR№ RgR°SЃS‚SЊ RјRµRЅS– R·RјRѕRiSѓ RЅR°RїRёSЃR°S‚Rё RЅR°RgR·RIRёS‡R°R№RЅRёR№ SЂRµRїRѕSЂS‚R°R¶, S– S‚RѕRјSѓ RI RјRµRЅRµ RIRёRЅRёRyeR»Rѕ R±R°R¶R°RЅRЅSЏ S‚SѓRgRё RїRѕS—S…R°S‚Rё.

Rџ.: RЇRye R’Rё RIR»R°S€S‚SѓRIR°R»Rё SЃRIRѕSЋ RїRѕRgRѕSЂRѕR¶?

R’.: RЈ R§RѕR»RµSЂS‚RѕRЅR° R±SѓR»R° SЃRµRyeSЂRµS‚R°SЂRyeR°-SЂRѕSЃS–SЏRЅRyeR°, RgSѓR¶Rµ R°T‘SЂRµSЃRёRIRЅR° RѕSЃRѕR±R°, S‰Rѕ RїRѕS—S…R°R»R° R·S– RјRЅRѕSЋ RЅR° RIRѕRyeR·R°R». R’RѕRЅR° RјR°R»R° RgSѓR¶Rµ SЂS–R·RyeRёR№ RiRѕR»RѕSЃ. R“SЂSЋRyeRЅSѓRIS€Rё RyeSѓR»R°RyeRѕRј RїRѕ RїSЂRёR»R°RIRyeSѓ, RIRѕRЅR° SЃRyeR°R·R°R»R°: "RўSѓS‚ S…S‚RѕSЃSЊ RїRѕS‚SЂRµR±SѓS” RyeRIRёS‚RyeR° RgRѕ R RѕSЃS‚RѕRIR°". RњRµRЅS– RgR°R»Rё R·R°R»S–R·RЅRёS‡RЅRёR№ RyeRIRёS‚RѕRye – S†Rµ R±SѓR»Rѕ S‚R°Rye RїSЂRѕSЃS‚Rѕ.

Rџ.: R§Rё RѕS‡S–RyeSѓRIR°R»Rё R’Rё RЅR° SЏRyeS–SЃSЊ RїRµSЂRµRїRѕRЅRё RIS–Rg RIR»R°RgRё?

R’.: R—RIS–SЃRЅRѕ, S‰Rѕ RѕS‡S–RyeSѓRIR°RI. RЇ RIRёRјSѓS€RµRЅRѕ R·SЂRѕR±RёRI RyeS–R»SЊRyeR° R·RјS–RЅ Sѓ SЃRIRѕS”RјSѓ RјR°SЂS€SЂSѓS‚S– S– SЃRїRѕRgS–RIR°RISЃSЏ, S‰Rѕ RI SЏRyeRѕRјSѓSЃSЊ RјS–SЃS†S– RјRµRЅRµ R·R°S‚SЂRёRјR°SЋS‚SЊ.

Rџ.: R§Rё R’Rё RјR°R»Rё RgRѕRIS€Sѓ R·SѓRїRёRЅRyeSѓ RI RљRёS”RIS–?

R’.: RўR°Rye. RњS–R¶ S–RЅS€RёRј, RyeRѕR»Rё R± RIRё RјRµRЅRµ R·R°RїRёS‚R°R»Rё, S‰Rѕ RЅR°R№SЏSЃRyeSЂR°RIS–S€Rµ R·R°R»RёS€RёR»RѕSЃSЏ RI RјRѕS—R№ RїR°Rј’SЏS‚S– RIS–Rg S†S–S”S— RїRѕRgRѕSЂRѕR¶S–, SЏ R±RµR· RЅR°R№RјRµRЅS€RѕRiRѕ RIR°RiR°RЅRЅSЏ SЃRyeR°R·R°RI R±Rё, S‰Rѕ RIS–RgRIS–RgRёRЅRё S†RµSЂRyeRIRё RI RљRёS”RIS–. RўR°Rј SЃR°RјRµ RIS–RgR±SѓRIR°R»RѕSЃSЏ RїSЂR°RIRѕSЃR»R°RIRЅRµ R±RѕRiRѕSЃR»SѓR¶S–RЅRЅSЏ S– S†RµSЂRyeRIR° R±SѓR»R° RїRµSЂRµRїRѕRIRЅRµRЅR° R»SЋRgSЊRјRё. RGRѕS‡ SЏ R±R°RiR°S‚Rѕ S‡RѕRiRѕ RЅRµ SЂRѕR·SѓRјS–RI, RISЃRµ-S‚R°RyeRё RЅR°RIS–S‚SЊ R· RјRѕS—Rј RЅRµR·RЅR°S‡RЅRёRј R·RЅR°RЅRЅSЏRј SЂRѕSЃS–R№SЃSЊRyeRѕS— RјRѕRIRё RgRµS‰Rѕ RgRѕ RјRµRЅRµ RgRѕS…RѕRgRёR»Rѕ.

RўRµRјR° R±SѓR»R°: "RќR°S€Rµ SЃS‚R°RЅRѕRIRёS‰Rµ R±RµR·RЅR°RgS–R№RЅRµ. R›RёS€Rµ R‘RѕRi RјRѕR¶Rµ RЅR°Rј RgRѕRїRѕRјRѕRiS‚Rё". R¦Rµ R±SѓR»Rѕ RїSЂRѕRyeR°R·SѓRIR°RЅRµ R· S‚R°RyeRѕSЋ S„R°RЅS‚R°SЃS‚RёS‡RЅRѕSЋ S‰RёSЂS–SЃS‚SЋ S– RIS–SЂRѕSЋ, S‰Rѕ SЏ RgSѓR¶Rµ SЃSѓRјRЅS–RIR°SЋSЃSЏ, S‡Rё RyeRѕR»Rё-RЅRµR±SѓRgSЊ R±SѓRI RїSЂRёSЃSѓS‚RЅS–R№ RЅR° R±RѕRiRѕSЃR»SѓR¶S–RЅRЅS–, SЏRyeRµ R± RјRµRЅRµ RЅR°SЃS‚S–R»SЊRyeRё R·RIRѕSЂSѓS€RёR»Rѕ.

RџR°SЃS‚RIR°, RISЃSѓRїRµSЂRµS‡ S‚RѕRјSѓ, S‰Rѕ RјRѕR¶RЅR° R±SѓR»Rѕ SЃRїRѕRgS–RIR°S‚RёSЃSЏ, R±SѓR»R° RјS–S€R°RЅRѕRiRѕ S‚RёRїSѓ S– RIRyeR»SЋS‡R°R»R° RїSЂRёR·RѕRIRЅRёRyeS–RI, SЃRµR»SЏRЅ S‚R° RѕSЃS–R± R·RѕRI­SЃS–Rј R±SѓSЂR¶SѓR№SЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ RIRёRiR»SЏRgSѓ. R† RїRѕSЃS‚S–R№RЅRѕ RїSЂRѕR±RёRIR°R»R°SЃSЏ S‚R° R¶R°S…R»RёRIR° RЅRѕS‚R°: "RњRё R±RµR·SЃRёR»S–, RјRё R±RµR·SЃRёR»S–, RјRё RЅS–S‡RѕRiRѕ RЅRµ RјRѕR¶RµRјRѕ RIRgS–SЏS‚Rё. RџSЂRѕSЃRёRјRѕ, RїSЂRѕSЃRёRјRѕ, RїRѕRјRѕR¶Rё RЅR°Rј!" R¦Rµ R·SЂRѕR±RёR»Rѕ RЅR° RјRµRЅRµ RIRµR»RёS‡RµR·RЅRµ RISЂR°R¶RµRЅRЅSЏ.

Rџ. R§Rё R’R°S€S– SЃS‚R°S‚S‚S– RI "TђR°SЂRgS–R°RЅ" RїS–Rg R·R°RiRѕR»RѕRIRyeRѕRј "R R°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRёR№ RЎRѕSЋR· S– SЃRµR»SЏRЅSЃS‚RIRѕ" RїRѕSЃR»S–RgRѕRIRЅRѕ RIS–RgRgR·RµSЂRyeR°R»SЋSЋS‚SЊ RїRѕSЂSЏRgRѕRye R’R°S€RѕS— RїRѕRgRѕSЂRѕR¶S–?

R’.: RўR°Rye. RЎRїRµSЂS€Sѓ SЏ RїRѕRgRѕSЂRѕR¶SѓRIR°RI RїRѕ RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅS–, R° S‚RѕRgS– RїRѕS—S…R°RI RЅR° RџS–RIRЅS–S‡RЅRёR№ RљR°RIRyeR°R·. R—RIS–SЃRЅRѕ, SЏ RЅRµ RјS–Ri RgSѓR¶Rµ RIS–RgRgR°R»SЏS‚RёSЃSЏ RIS–Rg RїRѕS—R·RgR°. RўR°Rye SЃS‚R°R»RѕSЃSЏ, S‰Rѕ RЅR° RѕRgRЅS–R№ SЃS‚R°RЅS†S–S—, RgSѓRјR°SЋ, RI R”RЅS–RїSЂRѕRїRµS‚SЂRѕRISЃSЊRyeSѓ, SЏ RїRѕR±R°S‡RёRI SЃRµR»SЏRЅ S–R· R·RI’SЏR·R°RЅRёRјRё R·R·R°RgSѓ SЂSѓRyeR°RјRё, SЏRyeRёS… RIR°RЅS‚R°R¶RёR»Rё Sѓ RIR°RiRѕRЅRё RgR»SЏ RїRµSЂRµRIRµR·RµRЅRЅSЏ S…SѓRgRѕR±Rё, RїS–Rg RїSЂRёRјSѓSЃRѕRј R·R±SЂRѕS—. RњRµRЅS– SЃRµSЂRgRёS‚Rѕ RЅR°RyeR°R·R°R»Rё R·R°R±SЂR°S‚RёSЃSЏ R·RIS–RgS‚Rё, R°R»Rµ, RЅR° S‰R°SЃS‚SЏ, RЅS–SЏRyeRёS… S–RЅS€RёS… R·R°S…RѕRgS–RI RїSЂRѕS‚Rё RјRµRЅRµ RЅRµ R·R°SЃS‚RѕSЃRѕRIR°RЅRѕ.

RљR°R¶SѓS‚SЊ, S‰Rѕ SЃRёSЃS‚RµRјR° R±RµR·RїRµRyeRё RI RЎR RЎR vЂЇ— RµS„RµRyeS‚RёRIRЅR° RgRѕ R¶RѕSЂSЃS‚RѕRyeRѕSЃS‚S–. RќR°SЃRїSЂR°RIRgS– RIRѕRЅR° S‚R°RyeRѕSЋ RЅRµ S”. R‘R°RiR°S‚Rѕ R· RїSЂR°S†S–RIRЅRёRyeS–RI S†S–S”S— SЃRёSЃS‚RµRјRё – S†Rµ S‚SѓRїS– R»SЋRgRё. RќR°RIS–S‚SЊ S– R·R° S‚R°RyeRѕRiRѕ SЂRµR¶RёRјSѓ RјS–R¶ R»SЋRgSЊRјRё S–SЃRЅSѓRIR°R»R° SЃRIRѕRiRѕ SЂRѕRgSѓ SЃRїS–RIRgSЂSѓR¶RЅS–SЃS‚SЊ. R’RїSЂRѕRgRѕRIR¶ SѓSЃS–S”S— RїRѕRgRѕSЂRѕR¶S– RЅS–S…S‚Rѕ RјRµRЅRµ RЅRµ S…R°RїR°RI, RЅRµ RїRёS‚R°RI RїSЂRѕ RgRѕRyeSѓRјRµRЅS‚Rё, S…RѕS‡ R±SѓR»Rѕ SЏSЃRЅRѕ, S‰Rѕ SЏ S‡SѓR¶RёRЅRµS†SЊ.

RЇ RIRёRIS‡R°RI SЃRёS‚SѓR°S†S–SЋ, RЅR°SЃRyeS–R»SЊRyeRё RјS–Ri, RјR°RЅRgSЂSѓSЋS‡Rё R· RIR°RiRѕRЅSѓ RgRѕ RIR°RiRѕRЅSѓ S– RїSЂRѕRiSѓR»SЋSЋS‡RёSЃSЏ RїRѕR·R° RЅRёRј, SЏRyeS‰Rѕ S†Rµ R±SѓR»Rѕ RјRѕR¶R»RёRIRѕ. R¦Rµ RЅRµ R±SѓR»Rѕ SЃRёSЃS‚RµRјR°S‚RёS‡RЅRµ RgRѕSЃR»S–RgR¶RµRЅRЅSЏ. R— S–RЅS€RѕRiRѕ R±RѕRyeSѓ, RIRѕRЅRѕ R№ RЅRµ R±SѓR»Rѕ RїRѕS‚SЂS–R±RЅRµ, S‰RѕR± R·SЂRѕR·SѓRјS–S‚Rё, S‰Rѕ RIRё RїRµSЂRµR±SѓRIR°S”S‚Rµ RI RyeSЂR°S—RЅS–, SЏRyeR° R·R°R·RЅR°R»R° R¶R°S…R»RёRIRѕRiRѕ RiRѕR»RѕRgSѓ. RќRµ R·R°R±SѓRIR°R№S‚Rµ, S‰Rѕ SЏ RїRѕRgRѕSЂRѕR¶SѓRIR°RI RїRѕSЂS–RIRЅSЏRЅRѕ RI SЂRѕR·RyeRѕS€S–. RќS–S…S‚Rѕ SЃRїRµS†S–R°R»SЊRЅRѕ RјRЅRѕSЋ RЅRµ S†S–RyeR°RIRёRISЃSЏ, S– SЏ RїSЂRѕRIRѕRgRёRI R±R°RiR°S‚Rѕ S‡R°SЃSѓ, RIRёR·RёSЂR°SЋS‡Rё R· RIS–RyeRѕRЅ RїRѕS—R·RgR°.

Rџ.: R’Rё R·RiR°RgSѓS”S‚Rµ RIS–RgRIS–RgRёRЅRё RЅS–RјRµS†SЊRyeRѕS— SЃS–R»SЊSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕSЃRїRѕRgR°SЂSЃSЊRyeRѕS— RyeRѕRЅS†RµSЃS–S— R”SЂSѓR·R°T‘ Sѓ SЂR°R№RѕRЅS– RљSѓR±R°RЅS– RЅR° RџS–RIRЅS–S‡RЅRѕRјSѓ RљR°RIRyeR°R·S–.

R’.: RўR°Rye. RЇ RїRµSЂRµRyeRѕRЅR°RISЃSЏ, S‰Rѕ S†S– RЅS–RјS†S– R·RЅR°R»Rё RїSЂRѕ RiRѕR»RѕRg R±S–R»SЊS€Rµ, RЅS–R¶ R±SѓRgSЊ-S…S‚Rѕ, R· RyeRёRј SЏ R·SѓSЃS‚SЂS–S‡R°RISЃSЏ. RљRѕR»Rё R± SЏ R·R°RїRёSЃR°RI SѓSЃRµ, S‰Rѕ RIRѕRЅRё RјRµRЅS– SЂRѕR·RїRѕRIS–R»Rё, SЏ RјR°RI R±Rё RїRѕRIRЅSѓ RyeR°SЂS‚RёRЅSѓ. R’RѕRЅRё R°R¶ R·R°RgRѕR±SЂRµ SѓSЃRIS–RgRѕRјR»SЋRIR°R»Rё SЂRѕR·RјS–SЂ RiRѕR»RѕRgSѓ, S‰Rѕ RїR°RЅSѓRIR°RI RЅR°RIRyeRѕR»Rѕ RЅRёS….

RЇ S‚R°Rye RѕRїRёSЃR°RI, S‰Rѕ SЏ S‚R°Rј R±R°S‡RёRI, Sѓ R»RёSЃS‚S– RgRѕ "TђR°SЂRgS–R°RЅ" Sѓ RIRµSЂRµSЃRЅS– 1933 SЂ. Sѓ RIS–RgRїRѕRIS–RgSЊ RјRѕS—Rј RyeSЂRёS‚RёRyeR°Rј: "RљRѕRЅS†RµSЃS–SЏ S” RјR°R»RµRЅSЊRyeRѕSЋ RѕR°R·RѕSЋ RgRѕSЃS‚R°S‚RyeSѓ SЃRµSЂRµRg RїSѓSЃS‚RµR»S–. R‡S— R±R°RiR°S‚SЃS‚RIRѕ RgRѕRїRѕRјR°RiR°S” SѓSЃRIS–RgRѕRјRёS‚Rё R¶R°S…R»RёRIRµ SЃRїSѓSЃS‚RѕS€RµRЅRЅSЏ RЅR°RIRyeSЂSѓRiRё".

RЇ RїSЂRѕRIS–RI S‚R°Rј RyeS–R»SЊRyeR° RgRЅS–RI, S– S‰RѕRgRЅSЏ SЃRѕS‚RЅS– RIRёSЃRЅR°R¶RµRЅRёS… RIS–Rg RiRѕR»RѕRgSѓ SЃRµR»SЏRЅ RїSЂRёS…RѕRgRёR»Rё, R±R»R°RiR°SЋS‡Rё RїSЂR°S†S– R№ S…R»S–R±R°. R’RёRiRѕR»RѕRgRЅS–R»S– S‡RѕR»RѕRIS–RyeRё, R¶S–RЅRyeRё R№ RgS–S‚Rё RЅR°RIRyeRѕR»S–S€RyeR°S… R±R»R°RiR°R»Rё SЏRyeRѕS—-RЅRµR±SѓRgSЊ S—R¶S–.

RџS–R·RЅS–S€Rµ SЂRѕR·RyeR°R·SѓRIR°R»Rё RїSЂRѕ RЅS–RјRµS†SЊRyeS– R°RiSЂRѕRЅRѕRјS–S‡RЅS– RiRѕSЃRїRѕRgR°SЂSЃS‚RIR°, S‰Rѕ RјSѓSЃS–R»Rё RЅR°R№RјR°S‚Rё R»SЋRgRµR№, S‰RѕR± RїSЂRёR±SЂR°S‚Rё S‚SЂSѓRїRё SЃRµR»SЏRЅ, SЏRyeS– RѕSЃS‚R°RЅRЅS–RјRё R·SѓSЃRёR»R»SЏRјRё RgS–SЃS‚R°R»RёSЃSЏ RgRѕ RyeRѕRЅS†RµSЃS–S— S– S‚SѓS‚ S‚R°RyeRё RїR°RgR°R»Rё RјRµSЂS‚RIRёRјRё. RџR°SЂR°RgRѕRyeSЃR°R»SЊRЅRѕ, S‰Rѕ SЃR°RјRµ RI RyeRѕRЅS†RµSЃS–S— R”SЂSѓR·R°T‘ SЏ RїRѕS‡SѓRI RЅS–RјRµS†SЊRyeRµ SЂR°RgS–RѕRїRѕRIS–RgRѕRјR»RµRЅRЅSЏ, SЏRyeRµ SЃRїRѕRIS–S‰R°R»Rѕ RїSЂRѕ S‚Rµ, S‰Rѕ R“S–S‚R»RµSЂ SЃS‚R°RI RyeR°RЅS†R»RµSЂRѕRј.

Rџ.: R”Rµ R’Rё R±R°S‡RёR»Rё RЅR°R№RiS–SЂS€RёR№ RiRѕR»RѕRg?

R’.: R‘RµR·SЃSѓRјRЅS–RIRЅRѕ, RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅS–.

Rџ.: RЇRyeS– RgRµS‚R°R»S– R’Rё RјRѕR¶RµS‚Rµ RїSЂRёRiR°RgR°S‚Rё RїSЂRѕ SЃS‚R°RЅRѕRIRёS‰Rµ S‚R°RјS‚RµS€RЅS–S… SЃRµR»SЏRЅ Sѓ S‚S– S‡R°SЃRё?

R’.: RЇ RЅRµ RјRѕR¶Sѓ RїSЂRёRiR°RgR°S‚Rё RЅS–S‡RѕRiRѕ R±S–R»SЊS€Rµ, RѕRyeSЂS–Rј S‚RѕRiRѕ, RїSЂRѕ S‰Rѕ SЏ RIR¶Rµ RЅR°RїRёSЃR°RI, S– S‚RѕRјSѓ SЏ RїSЂRѕRїRѕRЅSѓSЋ RIR°Rј R·RIRµSЂRЅSѓS‚RёSЃSЏ RgRѕ RјRѕS—S… SЃS‚R°S‚RµR№ RI "TђR°SЂRgS–R°RЅ" S– "RњRѕSЂRЅS–RЅT‘ RїRѕSЃS‚".

RЈ RIRёRїSѓSЃRyeSѓ "RњRѕSЂRЅS–RЅT‘ RїRѕSЃS‚" RIS–Rg 6 S‡RµSЂRIRЅSЏ 1933 SЂ. SЏ RIRёSЃR»RѕRIRёRI SЃRIRѕSЋ SЃS‚SѓSЂR±RѕRIR°RЅS–SЃS‚SЊ S‰RѕRgRѕ S‚RѕRiRѕ, S‰Rѕ RIS‡RёRЅRµRЅRµ SЂR°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRёRј SЂRµR¶RёRјRѕRј RЅR° SЃRµR»R°S… "R±SѓR»Rѕ RѕRgRЅRёRј R· RЅR°R№RїRѕS‚RIRѕSЂRЅS–S€RёS… R·R»RѕS‡RёRЅS–RI RI S–SЃS‚RѕSЂS–S—, RЅR°SЃS‚S–R»SЊRyeRё R¶R°S…R»RёRIRёRј, S‰Rѕ R»SЋRgRё RјR°R№R±SѓS‚RЅSЊRѕRiRѕ R»RµRgRIRµ S‡Rё R·RјRѕR¶SѓS‚SЊ RїRѕRIS–SЂRёS‚Rё, S‰Rѕ S†Rµ RyeRѕR»Rё-RЅRµR±SѓRgSЊ SЃS‚R°R»RѕSЃSЏ". Rђ RѕSЃSЊ RIRёS‚SЏRi R· RѕRїRёSЃSѓ RIS–RgSЂR°R·Sѓ R¶ RїS–SЃR»SЏ S†SЊRѕRiRѕ:

RЇRyeR±Rё RIRё RIS–RgRIS–RgR°R»Rё S‚RµRїRµSЂ RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅSѓ R°R±Rѕ RџS–RIRЅS–S‡RЅRёR№ RљR°RIRyeR°R·, RЅR°RїSЂRѕS‡SѓRg RiR°SЂRЅS– RyeSЂR°S—RЅRё S‚R° SЂR°RЅS–S€Rµ RѕRgRЅS– R· RЅR°R№SЂRѕRgSЋS‡S–S€RёS… Sѓ SЃRIS–S‚S–, RIRё RїRѕR±R°S‡RёR»Rё R±, S‰Rѕ RIRѕRЅRё S‚RµRїRµSЂ SЏRye RїSѓSЃS‚RµR»SЏ. RџRѕR»SЏ R·R°SЂRѕSЃR»Rё R±SѓSЂ’SЏRЅR°RјRё R№ R·R°RїSѓS‰RµRЅS–, RЅRµRјR°S” RЅS– S…SѓRgRѕR±Rё, RЅS– RyeRѕRЅRµR№, SЃRµR»R° RIRёRiR»SЏRgR°SЋS‚SЊ RїRѕRyeRёRЅSѓS‚RёRјRё, R° RїRѕRgRµRyeSѓRgRё R№ RЅR°SЃRїSЂR°RIRgS– RїRѕRyeRёRЅSѓS‚S–; SЃRµR»SЏRЅRё, R·R°RјRѕSЂRµRЅS– RiRѕR»RѕRgRѕRј, R· RЅR°RїSѓS…R»RёRј S‚S–R»RѕRј, RјR°SЋS‚SЊ RЅRµRIRёRјRѕRIRЅRѕ R¶R°R»SЋRiS–RgRЅRёR№ RIRёRiR»SЏRg.

R’Rё RgS–R·RЅR°S”S‚RµSЃSЏ, SЏRyeS‰Rѕ R·R°RїRёS‚R°S”S‚Rµ S—S…, S‰Rѕ RIRѕRЅRё RЅRµ R±R°S‡RёR»Rё S…R»S–R±R° RIRїSЂRѕRgRѕRIR¶ RѕSЃS‚R°RЅRЅS–S… S‚SЂSЊRѕS… RјS–SЃSЏS†S–RI, R»RёS€Rµ RyeR°SЂS‚RѕRїR»SЋ S‚R° S‚SЂRѕS…Rё RїS€RѕRЅR°, S‚R° S‰Rѕ S‚RµRїRµSЂ RIRѕRЅRё SЂR°S…SѓSЋS‚SЊ RyeR°SЂS‚RѕRїR»RёRЅRё RїRѕ RѕRgRЅS–R№, R±Rѕ R·RЅR°SЋS‚SЊ, S‰Rѕ RЅRµ R±SѓRgRµ RЅS–S‡RѕRiRѕ S–RЅS€RѕRiRѕ S—SЃS‚Rё RgRѕ R»S–S‚R°, SЏRyeS‰Rѕ S‚RѕRgS– S‰RѕSЃSЊ R±SѓRgRµ.

R’RѕRЅRё RIR°Rј SЃRyeR°R¶SѓS‚SЊ, S‰Rѕ R±R°RiR°S‚Rѕ R»SЋRgRµR№ RIR¶Rµ RїRѕRјRµSЂR»Rё R· RiRѕR»RѕRgSѓ, S‰Rѕ R±R°RiR°S‚Rѕ RgR°R»S– RIRјRёSЂR°S” RyeRѕR¶RЅRѕRiRѕ RgRЅSЏ, S‰Rѕ S‚RёSЃSЏS‡S– R±SѓR»Rё SЂRѕR·SЃS‚SЂS–R»SЏRЅS– RIR»R°RgRѕSЋ, R° SЃRѕS‚RЅS– S‚RёSЃSЏS‡ R·R°SЃR»R°RЅS–, S‰Rѕ RgR»SЏ RЅRёS… S” R·R»RѕS‡RёRЅRѕRј, R·R° SЏRyeRёR№ RyeR°SЂR°SЋS‚SЊ RЅR° SЃRјRµSЂS‚SЊ R±RµR· SЃSѓRgSѓ, RјR°S‚Rё RI S…R°S‚S– R·RµSЂRЅRѕ.

R’RѕRЅRё RIR°Rј SѓSЃRµ S†Rµ SЂRѕR·RyeR°R¶SѓS‚SЊ, RѕRgRЅR°S‡Rµ, R»RёS€Rµ S‚RѕRgS–, RyeRѕR»Rё RїRѕR±R»RёR·Sѓ RЅRµ R±SѓRgRµ SЏRyeRѕRiRѕSЃSЊ RIRѕSЏRyeR° S‡Rё RЅRµR·RЅR°R№RѕRјRѕS— R»SЋRgRёRЅRё. RљRѕR»Rё R¶ RIRѕRЅRё RїRѕR±R°S‡R°S‚SЊ RyeRѕRiRѕSЃSЊ Sѓ S„RѕSЂRјS– R°R±Rѕ RyeRѕRiRѕSЃSЊ RgRѕR±SЂRµ RIRiRѕRgRѕRIR°RЅRѕRiRѕ, RyeRѕRiRѕ RIRѕRЅRё R· S†S–S”S— RїSЂRёS‡RёRЅRё RIRIR°R¶R°SЋS‚SЊ RyeRѕRјSѓRЅS–SЃS‚RѕRј S‡Rё SѓSЂSЏRgRѕRIS†RµRј, RIRѕRЅRё R·RјS–RЅSЏS‚SЊ S‚RѕRЅ S– R·R°RїRµRIRЅSЏS‚SЊ RIR°SЃ, S‰Rѕ RIRѕRЅRё RјR°SЋS‚SЊ SѓSЃRµ R· S…R°SЂS‡S–RI S‡Rё RѕRgSЏRiSѓ, S‡RѕRiRѕ RgSѓS€R° R·R°R±R°R¶R°S”, S– S‰Rѕ RIRѕRЅRё RI R·R°S…RѕRїR»RµRЅRЅS– RIS–Rg RgRёRyeS‚R°S‚SѓSЂRё RїSЂRѕR»RµS‚R°SЂS–R°S‚Sѓ S‚R° R· RIRgSЏS‡RЅS–SЃS‚SЋ SѓSЃRIS–RgRѕRјR»SЋSЋS‚SЊ SѓSЃS– R±R»R°RiR°, SЏRyeS– RIRѕRЅR° S—Rј RїSЂRёRЅRµSЃR»R°.

RЇRyeRёRј R±Rё RgRёRIRЅRёRј S†Rµ RЅRµ R·RgR°RIR°R»RѕSЃSЏ, RgRµSЏRyeRёS… R· S†RёS… R±S–RgRѕR»R°S… RїSЂRёRјSѓS€SѓSЋS‚SЊ S‡R°SЃ RIS–Rg S‡R°SЃSѓ RiRѕRIRѕSЂRёS‚Rё RI S‚R°RyeRѕRјSѓ RgSѓSЃS– RgRѕ RiSЂSѓRї S‚SѓSЂRёSЃS‚S–RI. RЇ RgS–R·RЅR°RISЃSЏ, S‰Rѕ S–Rј’SЏ R‘RµSЂRЅR°SЂRgR° RЁRѕSѓ S—Rј RIS–RgRѕRјRµ. R’RѕRЅRё RiRѕRIRѕSЂRёR»Rё RїSЂRѕ RЅSЊRѕRiRѕ RїSЂRёRIR°S‚RЅRѕ S‚R°RyeRёRј SЃR°RјRёRј S‚RѕRЅRѕRј, SЃRїR»SЊRѕRISѓSЋS‡Rё S‚R°Rye SЃR°RјRѕ R»SЋS‚Rѕ, SЏRye RїSЂRѕ RЎS‚R°R»S–RЅR°.

RЇ R±R°S‡RёRI S†Rµ SЃS‚R°RЅRѕRIRёS‰Rµ RЅR° RџS–RIRЅS–S‡RЅRѕRјSѓ RљR°RIRyeR°R·S– S– RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅS–, R° S‚R°RyeRѕR¶ S‡SѓRI R· R±R°RiR°S‚SЊRѕS… RgR¶RµSЂRµR», RgRµSЏRyeRёS… SЂRѕSЃS–R№SЃSЊRyeRёS…, RgRµSЏRyeRёS… S‡SѓR¶RёRЅRµS†SЊRyeRёS… S– RЅR°RIS–S‚SЊ R· RyeRѕRјSѓRЅS–SЃS‚RёS‡RЅRёS…, S‰Rѕ RїRѕRgS–R±RЅS– SѓRјRѕRIRё RїRµSЂRµRIR°R¶R°R»Rё Sѓ RISЃS–S… SЃS–R»SЊSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕSЃRїRѕRgR°SЂSЃSЊRyeRёS… SЂR°R№RѕRЅR°S… R RѕSЃS–S—. R‘RµR·SЃSѓRјRЅS–RIRЅRѕ, S‚R°Rye RIRѕRЅRѕ R№ S”.

R¦Rµ SЃS‚SЂR°S…S–S‚S‚SЏ RiRѕRgS– RѕRїRёSЃR°S‚Rё. RЇ R±R°S‡RёRI RI R†RЅRgS–S— SЃRµR»R°, RIRёRЅRёS‰RµRЅS– S…RѕR»RµSЂRѕSЋ. R¦Rµ R±SѓR»Rѕ R¶R°S…R»RёRIRѕ. RўRѕ R±SѓR»Rё RјRµSЂS‚RIS– SЃRµR»R°. R’SЃRµ-S‚R°RyeRё RїRѕS€RµSЃS‚S– RїSЂRѕS…RѕRgSЏS‚SЊ, S– SЏ R·RЅR°RI, S‰Rѕ S†S– SЃRµR»R° R·RЅRѕRISѓ RЅR°RїRѕRIRЅSЏS‚SЊSЃSЏ R¶RёRIRёRјRё R»SЋRgSЊRјRё. RЇ R±R°S‡RёRI Sѓ R‘RµR»SЊRiS–S— SЃRµR»R°, R·RЅRёS‰RµRЅS– RIS–R№RЅRѕSЋ. R¦Rµ R±SѓR»Rё S‚R°RyeRѕR¶ RјRµSЂS‚RIS– SЃRµR»R°. RђR»Rµ RЅR°RIS–S‚SЊ RIS–R№RЅR° RјR°R»R° SЃRIS–R№ RyeS–RЅRµS†SЊ, S– SЏ R·RЅR°RI, S‰Rѕ S†S– SЃRµR»R° R·RЅRѕRISѓ RЅR°RїRѕRIRЅSЏS‚SЊSЃSЏ R¶RёRIRёRјRё R»SЋRgSЊRјRё.

RЎRµR»R°, SЃRїSѓSЃS‚RѕS€RµRЅS– R±S–R»SЊS€RѕRIRёRyeR°RјRё, R±SѓR»Rё RЅRµRIRёRјRѕRIRЅRѕ R¶R°S…R»RёRIS– S‚RѕRјSѓ, S‰Rѕ S—S…RЅSЊRѕRјSѓ SЃRїSѓSЃS‚RѕS€RµRЅRЅSЋ RЅRµ RIRёRgRЅRѕ R±SѓR»Rѕ RyeS–RЅS†SЏ. R’RёRiR»SЏRgR°R»Rѕ, RЅS–R±Rё SЏRyeR°SЃSЊ R·R°SЂR°R·R° RїSЂRёR№S€R»R° RЅR° RIS–RyeRё RIS–S‡RЅS– RI SЃRµR»R°. R—RgR°RIR°R»RѕSЃSЏ, RЅS–S‰Rѕ RIR¶Rµ S‚R°Rј RЅS–RyeRѕR»Rё RЅRµ RIRёSЂRѕSЃS‚Rµ. R’RёRiR»SЏRgR°R»Rѕ, RЅS–R±Rё R¶RёS‚S‚SЏ SЃRµR»SЏRЅ R±SѓR»Rѕ RIRёSЂRIR°RЅRµ R· RyeRѕSЂS–RЅRЅSЏRј, R° SЃR°RјS– RIRѕRЅRё R»RёS€Rµ RgSѓS…Rё, S‰Rѕ RIS–RgRIS–RgSѓRIR°R»Rё RјS–SЃS†Rµ, RgRµ RIRѕRЅRё RyeRѕR»RёSЃSЊ R±SѓR»Rё S‰R°SЃR»RёRIS–.

RЇ RїRёS‚R°RI SЃRµR±Rµ: R§RѕRјSѓ R± S†Rµ RјR°R»Rѕ SЃRyeS–RЅS‡RёS‚RёSЃSЏ?vЂЇ— R‘RµR·RgSѓS€RЅS– RIRѕSЏRyeRё, RgRµSЏRyeS– R· RЅRёS… RјRѕRЅRiRѕR»Rё R· RѕR»RёRI’SЏRЅRёRјRё R»RёS†SЏRјRё S‚R° SЂRѕR·RyeRѕSЃRёRјRё RѕS‡RёRјR°; RїSЂR°S†S–RIRЅRёRyeRё TђRџRЈ, S‡RµRїSѓSЂRЅRѕ RIRgSЏRiRЅRµRЅS– S– RgRѕR±SЂRµ RїS–RgRiRѕRgRѕRIR°RЅS–, S‡R°SЃS‚Rѕ S”RISЂRµS—, S‰Rѕ RIRёRyeRѕRЅSѓRIR°R»Rё RЅR°RyeR°R·Rё RgRёRyeS‚R°S‚SѓSЂRё RїSЂRѕR»RµS‚R°SЂS–R°S‚Sѓ S– RЅRёS‰RёR»Rё RїRµRIRЅS–S€Rµ, RЅS–R¶ RIR°SЂRIR°SЂRё (R±Rѕ S‚S– RїSЂRёS…RѕRgRёR»Rё R· RјRµS‡RµRј S– RIRѕRiRЅRµRјvЂЇ – SЂRµS‡R°RјRё RIS–RgRЅRѕSЃRЅRѕ S‡RёSЃS‚RёRјRё), R¶RёS‚S‚SЏ R№ RgSѓS€Sѓ RyeSЂR°S—RЅRё".

 RџSЂR°S†S–RIRЅRёRye RyeRѕR»RiRѕSЃRїSѓ R· SЃRµR»R° RћR»SЊS€R°RЅR° RGR°SЂRyeS–RISЃSЊRyeRѕS— RѕR±R»R°SЃS‚S–, RyeRѕRјSЃRѕRјRѕR»RµS†SЊ R“RѕRЅS‡R°SЂRµRЅRyeRѕ RѕS…RѕSЂRѕRЅSЏS” RЅR°SЃS–RЅRЅS”RIS– S– SЃS‚SЂR°S…RѕRIS– S„RѕRЅRgRё, 1933 SЂ.

Rџ.: RЈ SЃRIRѕS—S… SЃRїRѕRјRёRЅR°S… R’Rё RѕRїRёSЃSѓS”S‚Rµ RiRѕR»RѕRg SЏRye "SѓSЂSЏRgRѕRIRёR№".

R’.: RџS–Rg S‚RёRј SЏ SЂRѕR·SѓRјS–SЋ, S‰Rѕ S‚Rѕ R±SѓRI S€S‚SѓS‡RЅRёR№ RiRѕR»RѕRg. R’S–RЅ R±SѓRI R·R°RїR»R°RЅRѕRIR°RЅRёR№ S– RЅR°RIRјRёSЃRЅRёR№, R° RЅRµ SЃRїSЂRёS‡RёRЅRµRЅRёR№ SЏRyeRёRјSЃSЊ RїSЂRёSЂRѕRgRЅRёRј R»RёS…RѕRј. R’S–RЅ RIRёRЅRёRye SѓRЅR°SЃR»S–RgRѕRye RЎS‚R°R»S–RЅRѕRIRѕS— RIS–R№RЅRё RїSЂRѕS‚Rё SЃRµR»SЏRЅSЃS‚RIR° RїS–Rg S‡R°SЃ RїSЂRёRјSѓSЃRѕRIRѕS— RyeRѕR»RµRyeS‚RёRIS–R·R°S†S–S— SЃS–R»SЊSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ RiRѕSЃRїRѕRgR°SЂSЃS‚RIR°.

RЈ RIRёS‰RµR·RiR°RgR°RЅS–R№ SЃS‚R°S‚S‚S– RI "RњRѕSЂRЅS–RЅT‘ RїRѕSЃS‚" SЏ RѕRїRёSЃR°RI RЅR°SЃS‚SѓRї RїR°SЂS‚S–R№RЅRёS… R°RїR°SЂR°S‚RЅRёRyeS–RI RЅR° SЃRµR»Rѕ SЏRye "S…RјR°SЂSѓ SЃR°SЂR°RЅRё, S‰Rѕ RїRѕR¶RёSЂR°S” RISЃRµ S—SЃS‚S–RIRЅRµ, R° R·R°R»RёS€R°S” R·R° SЃRѕR±RѕSЋ RїSѓSЃS‚RyeSѓ".

Rџ.: R§Rё R’Rё R°R±Rѕ RIR°S€S– RyeRѕR»RµT‘Rё RјS–SЂRyeSѓRIR°R»Rё RЅR°Rg S‚RёRј, S‡RѕRјSѓ SЃR°RјRµ RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅS– RiRѕR»RѕRg R±SѓRI RЅR°R№R¶RѕSЂSЃS‚RѕRyeS–S€RёR№?

R’.: RўR°Rye, S– RјRё RgS–R№S€R»Rё RgRѕ RїRµRIRЅRѕRiRѕ SЂRѕR·SѓRјS–RЅRЅSЏ. R’ RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅS– RyeRѕR»RµRyeS‚RёRIS–R·R°S†S–S— S‡RёRЅRёR»Rё RЅR°R№SЃRёR»SЊRЅS–S€RёR№ RѕRїS–SЂ S– SЃRїSЂR°RISѓ R»S–RyeRIS–RgR°S†S–S— "RyeSѓSЂRyeSѓR»S–RI" R±SѓR»Rѕ S‚R°Rј S‚SЏR¶S‡Rµ SЂRѕR·RI’SЏR·SѓRIR°S‚Rё, RЅS–R¶ Sѓ R±SѓRgSЊ-SЏRyeRѕRјSѓ S–RЅS€RѕRјSѓ RјS–SЃS†S–.

Rџ.: R§Rё R’Rё RyeRѕR»Rё-RЅRµR±SѓRgSЊ RїRѕRI’SЏR·SѓRIR°R»Rё S†SЋ RїSЂRѕR±R»RµRјSѓ R· RЅR°S†S–RѕRЅR°R»SЊRЅRёRј RїRёS‚R°RЅRЅSЏRј?

R’.: RњRё R·RЅR°R»Rё RgRµS‰Rѕ RїSЂRѕ SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅS†S–RI S– RїSЂRѕ S–RЅS€S– RЅRµSЂRѕSЃS–R№SЃSЊRyeS– RЅR°S†S–RѕRЅR°R»SЊRЅRѕSЃS‚S–. RђR»Rµ RЅS–, SЏ RЅRµ R·RЅR°RI R±R°RiR°S‚Rѕ SЃR°RјRµ RїSЂRѕ S†RµR№ R°SЃRїRµRyeS‚.

Rџ.: RЇRye R’Rё R·RЅR°S”S‚Rµ, 1933 SЂS–Rye SѓRIS–R№S€RѕRI RI SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeSѓ S–SЃS‚RѕSЂS–SЋ SЏRye annus teribilis – "R¶R°S…R»RёRIRёR№ SЂS–Rye". R“RѕR»RѕRg SЂRѕR·RiR»SЏRgR°SЋS‚SЊ RЅRµ RїSЂRѕSЃS‚Rѕ SЏRye RЅR°SЃR»S–RgRѕRye RЅRµRїSЂR°RIRёR»SЊRЅRѕ SЃRїSЂSЏRјRѕRIR°RЅRѕS— RµRyeRѕRЅRѕRјS–S‡RЅRѕS— RїRѕR»S–S‚RёRyeRё, R° SЏRye RЅR°RIRјRёSЃRЅRµ RЅR°RјR°RiR°RЅRЅSЏ R·R»RѕRјRёS‚Rё S…SЂRµR±RµS‚ SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeS–R№ RЅR°S†S–S—. R’ RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅS– "RyeSѓSЂRyeSѓR»S–RI" RѕS‚RѕS‚RѕR¶RЅSЋRIR°R»Rё R· SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRёRј RЅR°S†S–RѕRЅR°R»S–R·RјRѕRј, R° RyeRѕR»RµRyeS‚RёRIS–R·R°S†S–SЋ SЂRµR¶RёRј SЂRѕR·RiR»SЏRgR°RI RѕRgRЅRѕS‡R°SЃRЅRѕ SЏRye R·R°SЃS–R± R·RЅRёS‰RµRЅRЅSЏ SЃRѕS†S–R°R»SЊRЅRѕS— R±R°R·Rё SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ RЅR°S†S–RѕRЅR°R»S–R·RјSѓ.

R’.: RЇ RЅRµ SЃSѓRјRЅS–RIR°SЋSЃSЏ RI S†SЊRѕRјSѓ. RђR»Rµ SЂS–S‡ Sѓ S‚S–Rј, S‰Rѕ RЅR° S‚RѕR№ S‡R°SЃ SЏ S‰Rµ RЅRµ RiRѕRIRѕSЂRёRI SЂRѕSЃS–R№SЃSЊRyeRѕSЋ RЅR°SЃS‚S–R»SЊRyeRё RgRѕR±SЂRµ, S‰RѕR± RgRѕSЃR»S–RgR¶SѓRIR°S‚Rё S‚R°RyeS– RїSЂRѕR±R»RµRјRё.

Rџ.: RџRѕRIS–RgRѕRјR»SЏR»RѕSЃSЏ, S‰Rѕ SЂR°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeS– SѓSЂSЏRgRѕRIS– S‡RёRЅRЅRёRyeRё S„R°RyeS‚RёS‡RЅRѕ RїRµSЂRµS€RyeRѕRgR¶R°R»Rё SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRёRј SЃRµR»SЏRЅR°Rј, SЏRyeS– RїRѕS‚RµSЂRїR°R»Rё RIS–Rg RiRѕR»RѕRgSѓ, RїRµSЂRµS…RѕRgRёS‚Rё RI RїRѕS€SѓRyeR°S… S—R¶S– RgRѕ R RѕSЃS–S—, RgRµ SѓRјRѕRIRё R±SѓR»Rё RЅRµ S‚R°RyeS– RyeR°S‚R°SЃS‚SЂRѕS„S–S‡RЅS–. R§Rё RїSЂRёRiR°RgSѓS”S‚Rµ, S‰Rѕ R’Rё S‚RѕRgS– S‡SѓR»Rё RїSЂRѕ RyeRѕRЅS‚SЂRѕR»SЊRЅRѕ-RїSЂRѕRїSѓSЃRyeRЅS– RїSѓRЅRyeS‚Rё RЅR° SѓRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeRѕ-SЂRѕSЃS–R№SЃSЊRyeRѕRјSѓ RyeRѕSЂRgRѕRЅS–?

R’.: RўR°Rye, SЏ S‡SѓRI RїSЂRѕ S†Rµ RIS–Rg RЅS–RјS†S–RI RI RyeRѕRЅS†RµSЃS–S— R”SЂSѓR·R°T‘.

Rџ.: R’ SЏRyeRёS… SѓRјRѕRIR°S… R’Rё RїRёSЃR°R»Rё SЃRIRѕS— R·RIS–S‚Rё RgR»SЏ "TђR°SЂRgS–R°RЅ"?

R’.: RЇ RїRёSЃR°RI S—S…, RїRѕRIRµSЂRЅSѓRIS€RёSЃSЏ RgRѕ RњRѕSЃRyeRIRё. RЇ R¶RёRI S‚RѕRgS– RI RgRѕRјS– R’S–R»R»SЏRјR° R“RµRЅSЂS– R§RµRјR±RµSЂR»RµRЅR°, RyeRѕSЂRµSЃRїRѕRЅRgRµRЅS‚R° RiR°R·RµS‚ "TђR°SЂRgS–R°RЅ" S‚R° "RљSЂS–S€S‡RµRЅ SЃR°S”RЅSЃ RјRѕRЅS–S‚RѕSЂ", SЏRyeRёR№ R±SѓRI Sѓ S‚RѕR№ S‡R°SЃ Sѓ RIS–RgRїSѓSЃS‚S†S–.

Rџ.: R§Rё RѕR±RiRѕRIRѕSЂSЋRIR°R»Rё RIRё SЃRIRѕS— SЃS‚R°S‚S‚S– R· RyeRѕR»RµRiR°RјRё?

R’.: RЇ RѕR±RiRѕRIRѕSЂSЋRIR°RI S—S… R· R§RѕR»RµSЂS‚RѕRЅRѕRј, SЏRyeRёR№ R·RЅR°RI RgRѕSЃRёS‚SЊ R±R°RiR°S‚Rѕ RїSЂRѕ S†SЋ SЃRїSЂR°RISѓ. R™RѕRiRѕ R¶S–RЅRyeR° R±SѓR»R° SЂRѕSЃS–SЏRЅRyeR°, S‰Rѕ RyeRѕR»RёSЃSЊ R¶RёR»R° RI S‚S–R№ S‡R°SЃS‚RёRЅS– RyeSЂR°S—RЅRё, S– RIRѕRЅR° R±R°RiR°S‚Rѕ RgRѕRїRѕRјRѕRiR»R°. RЇ RЅRµ RiRѕRIRѕSЂRёRI, RѕRgRЅR°S‡Rµ, RїSЂRѕ S†S– SЃS‚R°S‚S‚S– R· S–RЅS€RёRјRё, R±Rѕ RЅRµ S…RѕS‚S–RI, S‰RѕR± S…S‚RѕSЃSЊ R·RЅR°RI, RgRµ SЏ R±SѓRI, RїRѕRyeRё SЃS‚R°S‚S‚S– RЅRµ R±SѓRgSѓS‚SЊ RIRёSЃR»R°RЅS– RgRёRїR»RѕRјR°S‚RёS‡RЅRѕSЋ RїRѕS€S‚RѕSЋ.

Rџ.: R§Rё SЃR°RјRµ S‚R°Rye RIRѕRЅRё RѕRїRёRЅRёR»RёSЃSЏ R·R° RyeRѕSЂRgRѕRЅRѕRј?

R’.: RўR°Rye. RЇ RIRјRѕRIRёRI RyeRѕRiRѕSЃSЊ RIRёRIRµR·S‚Rё S—S… R· RyeSЂR°S—RЅRё RgRёRїR»RѕRјR°S‚RёS‡RЅRѕSЋ RїRѕS€S‚RѕSЋ. R‘SЂR°S‚Rё S—S… S–R· SЃRѕR±RѕSЋ R±SѓR»Rѕ SЂRёR·RёRyeRѕRIR°RЅRѕ, R±Rѕ S…S‚RѕSЃSЊ RјS–Ri S—S… RїRѕR±R°S‡RёS‚Rё, RyeRѕR»Rё SЏ RїRµSЂRµS—R·RgRёRI RyeRѕSЂRgRѕRЅ. RЇ RЅS–SЏRye RЅRµ RјS–Ri S—S… RїRѕSЃR»R°S‚Rё S‚RµR»RµRiSЂR°S„RѕRј.

R—R°RyeRѕSЂRgRѕRЅRЅS– R¶SѓSЂRЅR°R»S–SЃS‚Rё R±SѓR»Rё R·RѕR±RѕRI’SЏR·R°RЅS– RїRѕRyeR°R·SѓRIR°S‚Rё SЃRIRѕS— SЃS‚R°S‚S‚S– Sѓ RIS–RgRgS–R»S– RїSЂRµSЃRё, RgS–SЃS‚R°S‚Rё S‚R°Rј S—S…RЅS” SЃS…RIR°R»RµRЅRЅSЏ, R° S‚RѕRgS– RIS–RgRЅRµSЃS‚Rё RЅR° RїRѕS€S‚Sѓ. RЇRyeR±Rё SЏ RIRёSЃR»R°RI S—S… R·RIRёS‡R°R№RЅRѕSЋ RїRѕS€S‚RѕSЋ, S€R°RЅSЃRё R±SѓR»Rё SЃS‚Rѕ RgRѕ RѕRgRЅRѕRiRѕ, S‰Rѕ S—S… RїRµSЂRµS…RѕRїRёR»Rё R± S– S‚RѕRgS– RIR¶Rµ S—S… RїRѕR±R°S‡RёS‚Rё R·RЅRѕRISѓ R±SѓR»Rѕ R± RЅRµRјRѕR¶R»RёRIRѕ.

Rџ.: R§Rё RјR°R»Rё R’Rё SЏRyeS–SЃSЊ S‚SЂSѓRgRЅRѕS‰S– R· SЂR°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRёRјRё SѓSЂSЏRgRѕRIRёRјRё S‡RёRЅRЅRёRyeR°RјRё RїRµSЂRµRg RЅR°RїRёSЃR°RЅRЅSЏRј S‚RёS… SЃS‚R°S‚RµR№?

R’.: R’RѕRЅRё RјRµRЅS– RgR°R»Rё R·SЂRѕR·SѓRјS–S‚Rё, S‰Rѕ RgRµSЏRyeS– SЂRµS‡S–, SЏRyeS– SЏ RЅR°RїRёSЃR°RI SЂR°RЅS–S€Rµ Sѓ "TђR°SЂRgS–R°RЅ", RЅRµ R±SѓR»Rё S—Rј RїSЂRёS”RјRЅS–. R S–S‡ Sѓ S‚RѕRјSѓ, S‰Rѕ RyeRѕR»Rё SЏ RїSЂRёS—S…R°RI RgRѕ RњRѕSЃRyeRIRё, SѓSЂSЏRgRѕRIS– S‡RёRЅRЅRёRyeRё S‚R°Rј RIRёSЃRѕRyeRѕ S†S–RЅSѓRIR°R»Rё "TђR°SЂRgS–R°RЅ" R· RѕS‡RµRIRёRgRЅRёS… RїSЂRёS‡RёRЅvЂЇ— RiR°R·RµS‚R° RgR°RIR°R»R° RїSЂRёS…RёR»SЊRЅSѓ RѕS†S–RЅRyeSѓ RїRѕRgS–R№ Sѓ RyeSЂR°S—RЅS–.

R¦SЊRѕRјSѓ, RѕS‡RµRIRёRgRЅRѕ, S‚R°RyeRѕR¶ SЃRїSЂRёSЏR»Rѕ R№ RјRѕS” S‚RѕRgS–S€RЅS” RїRѕRI’SЏR·R°RЅRЅSЏ R· R’RµR±R±R°RјRё. RџRµSЂRµRg SЃR°RјRёRј RјRѕS—Rј RIS–Rg’S—R·RgRѕRј RїR°RЅS– R’RµR±R± SЃRyeR°R·R°R»R° RјRµRЅS–: "R—RЅR°S”S‚Rµ, RI RЎR RЎR  RјRё S” S–RyeRѕRЅRё". RќSѓ, RI RїRµRIRЅRѕRјSѓ SЃRµRЅSЃS– RIRѕRЅRё RЅRёRјRё R№ R±SѓR»Rё. RўRѕRјSѓ SЏ R±SѓRI RIRёSЃRѕRyeRѕRїRѕRIR°R¶R°RЅRѕSЋ RѕSЃRѕR±RѕSЋ, SЏRyeR°, RЅR° S—S…RЅSЋ RgSѓRјRyeSѓ, RЅRµ RїRѕRIRёRЅRЅR° R± R·R°RIRgR°RIR°S‚Rё S—Rј R±SѓRgSЊ-SЏRyeRёS… RyeR»RѕRїRѕS‚S–RI.

RЎRїRѕS‡R°S‚RyeSѓ SѓSЂSЏRgRѕRIS†S– R±SѓR»Rё RѕSЃRѕR±R»RёRIRѕ RIRIS–S‡R»RёRIS–. RђR»Rµ, RyeRѕR»Rё RIRѕRЅRё RїRѕR±R°S‡RёR»Rё, S‰Rѕ SЏ R·R°R№RЅSЏRI S–RЅS€Rµ SЃS‚R°RЅRѕRIRёS‰Rµ, SЃRїSЂR°RIRё R·RЅR°S‡RЅRѕ SѓSЃRyeR»R°RgRЅRёR»RёSЃSЏ. Rђ RIR¶Rµ RyeRѕR»Rё SЏ RIRёSЂS–S€RёRI RїRѕS—S…R°S‚Rё S– RїRµSЂRµRIS–SЂRёS‚Rё RїRѕRIS–RgRѕRјR»RµRЅRЅSЏ RїSЂRѕ RiRѕR»RѕRg RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅS–, S‚Rѕ R·RЅR°RI, S‰Rѕ RЅRµR·R°R±R°SЂRѕRј R±SѓRgSѓ R·RјSѓS€RµRЅRёR№ R·R°R»RёS€RёS‚Rё R R°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRёR№ RЎRѕSЋR·.

Rџ.: RЇRye SЂRµRgR°RyeS‚RѕSЂRё "TђR°SЂRgS–R°RЅ" SЂRµR°T‘SѓRIR°R»Rё RЅR° R’R°S€S– SЃS‚R°S‚S‚S–?

R’.: RЇ RЅRµ RїRѕS‡SѓRI R¶RѕRgRЅRѕS— SЂRµR°RyeS†S–S— RЅR° RЅRёS…. RЎS‚R°S‚S‚S– RЅR°RgSЂSѓRyeRѕRIR°RЅRѕ, S…RѕS‡ S–R· SЃRyeRѕSЂRѕS‡RµRЅRЅSЏRјRё. R’R¶Rµ RїRѕRIRµSЂRЅSѓRIS€RёSЃSЊ S–R· R R°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ RЎRѕSЋR·Sѓ, SЏ, RѕRgRЅR°S‡Rµ, RїRѕR±R°S‡RёRI Sѓ R‘RµSЂR»S–RЅS– RѕRiRѕR»RѕS€RµRЅRЅSЏ "TђR°SЂRgS–R°RЅ", RI SЏRyeRѕRјSѓ RiRѕRIRѕSЂRёR»RѕSЃSЏ: "RЎRїRµS†S–R°R»SЊRЅRёR№ SЂRµRїRѕSЂS‚R°R¶ RЅR°S€RѕRiRѕ RyeRѕSЂRµSЃRїRѕRЅRgRµRЅS‚R° RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅS–". RЇ RЅRµ RgS–SЃS‚R°RI RЅS– SЃR»RѕRIR° RїRѕRgSЏRyeRё RIS–Rg RЅRёS… S–, RgSѓRјR°SЋ, RIRѕRЅRё R±SѓR»Rё RgSѓR¶Rµ SЂR°RgS–, RyeRѕR»Rё SЏ R·R°R±SЂR°RISЃSЏ.

Rџ.: RџS–R·RЅS–S€Rµ SЃS‚R°S‚S‚S– RїSЂRѕ RiRѕR»RѕRg R’Rё RѕRїSѓR±R»S–RyeSѓRIR°R»Rё RI "RњRѕSЂRЅS–RЅT‘ RїRѕSЃS‚" S‚R° RI S–RЅS€RёS… RiR°R·RµS‚R°S…. R’ "TђR°SЂRgS–R°RЅ" R’Rё RїSѓR±R»S–RyeSѓRIR°R»Rё SЃS‚R°S‚S‚S– RїSЂRѕ SЂR°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeSѓ SЃRёSЃS‚RµRјSѓ RIRЅSѓS‚SЂS–S€RЅS–S… RїR°SЃRїRѕSЂS‚S–RI S‚R° RїSЂRѕ RїSЂRёRјSѓSЃRѕRISѓ RїSЂR°S†SЋ. R¤R°RyeS‚RёS‡RЅRѕ, R’Rё R±SѓR»Rё RѕRgRЅRёRј R· RїRµSЂS€RёS… RїSЂRµRgSЃS‚R°RIRЅRёRyeS–RI R—R°S…RѕRgSѓ, S‰Rѕ RIRёRyeSЂRёRIR°R»Rё S‚S–, S‚RµRїRµSЂ RgRѕR±SЂRµ RgRѕRyeSѓRјRµRЅS‚RѕRIR°RЅS– SЂRёSЃRё SЂR°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRѕS— RIR»R°RgRё. R§Rё SѓSЃRIS–RgRѕRјR»SЋRIR°R»Rё R’Rё, S‰Rѕ R±SѓR»Rё RѕRgRЅRёRј R· RїRµSЂS€RёS…, S…S‚Rѕ RIRёRiSѓRyeRЅSѓRI: "RљRѕSЂRѕR»SЊ RiRѕR»RёR№!"?

R’.: R¦Rµ RISЃRµ R±SѓR»Rѕ R·RIRёS‡R°R№RЅRѕSЋ S‚RµRјRѕSЋ SЂRѕR·RјRѕRI RyeRѕSЂRµSЃRїRѕRЅRgRµRЅS‚S–RI RјS–R¶ SЃRѕR±RѕSЋ, R° SЏ R»RёS€Rµ RїRѕSЃS‚R°SЂR°RISЃSЏ RїRѕRgR°S‚Rё RїSЂRѕ S†Rµ S‡RµSЃRЅRёR№ SЂRµRїRѕSЂS‚R°R¶. RњRµRЅS– RЅRµ SЃRїR°R»Rѕ RЅR° RgSѓRјRyeSѓ, S‰Rѕ RЅS–S…S‚Rѕ S–RЅS€RёR№ S†SЊRѕRiRѕ RЅRµ SЂRѕR±RёRI, R±Rѕ RISЃS– RIRѕRЅRё S…RѕS‚S–R»Rё S‚R°Rј R·R°R»RёS€RёS‚RёSЃSЏ S– RїSЂRѕRgRѕRIR¶SѓRIR°S‚Rё SЃRIRѕS” RgRѕSЃRёS‚SЊ RIRёRiS–RgRЅRµ R¶RёS‚S‚SЏ R· R№RѕRiRѕ S‡RёSЃR»RµRЅRЅRёRјRё RїSЂRёRIS–R»RµSЏRјRё.

R–RµSЂS‚RIRё RiRѕR»RѕRgSѓ. RGR°SЂRyeS–RI

 

Rџ.: RЎRyeS–R»SЊRyeRё, RЅR° R’R°S€Sѓ RgSѓRјRyeSѓ, R·R°RiRёRЅSѓR»Rѕ R»SЋRgRµR№ RIRЅR°SЃR»S–RgRѕRye RiRѕR»RѕRgSѓ?

R’.: RЇ RЅR°R·RIR°RI S‚RѕRgS– S†RёS„SЂSѓ RIS–Rg S‚SЂSЊRѕS… RgRѕ S‡RѕS‚RёSЂSЊRѕS… RјS–R»SЊR№RѕRЅS–RI. RЇ RiR°RgR°SЋ, S‰Rѕ S†SЋ S†RёS„SЂSѓ RјRµRЅS– RїRѕRgR°R»Rё RЅS–RјS†S– R· RyeRѕRЅS†RµSЃS–S— R”SЂSѓR·R°T‘. RњRµRЅRµ RЅR°R·RIR°R»Rё R±SЂRµS…SѓRЅRѕRј RI "TђR°SЂRgS–R°RЅ" S‚R° RI "RќSЊSЋ SЃS‚RµR№S‚SЃRјRµRЅ". RЇRye R·RiRѕRgRѕRј R·’SЏSЃSѓRIR°R»RѕSЃSЏ, S†Rµ S‡RёSЃR»Rѕ, S‰Rѕ RIRIR°R¶R°R»RѕSЃSЏ R°R±SЃSѓSЂRgRЅRёRј RїRµSЂRµR±S–R»SЊS€RµRЅRЅSЏRј, RЅR°SЃRїSЂR°RIRgS– R±SѓR»Rѕ RїSЂRёRјRµRЅS€RµRЅRЅSЏRј.

Rџ.: R§Rё R’Rё R±SѓR»Rё R·RgRёRIRѕRIR°RЅS– RIS–RgRiSѓRyeRѕRј RЅR° SЃRIRѕS— SЃS‚R°S‚S‚S– RI "TђR°SЂRgS–R°RЅ"?    

R’.: R—RIRёS‡R°R№RЅRѕ. RЇ RЅRµ SЃRїRѕRgS–RIR°RISЃSЏ, S‰Rѕ "TђR°SЂRgS–R°RЅ" RIRёSЂS–S€RёS‚SЊ RѕRїSѓR±R»S–RyeSѓRIR°S‚Rё R»RёSЃS‚Rё, S‰Rѕ R·RIRёRЅSѓRIR°S‡SѓRIR°R»Rё RјRµRЅRµ RI R±SЂRµS…RЅS–, S‚RѕRgS– SЏRye RIRѕRЅRё RјR°R»Rё RISЃS– RїS–RgSЃS‚R°RIRё RIS–SЂRёS‚Rё RјRѕS—R№ S‡RµSЃRЅRѕSЃS‚S–. R©Rѕ R±S–R»SЊS€Rµ, SЏ RїRµSЂRµRyeRѕRЅR°RISЃSЏ, S‰Rѕ RISЃRµ S†Rµ RЅRµ R»RёS€Rµ RЅRµ RїRѕR»S–RїS€RёR»Rѕ RјRѕS” SЃS‚R°RЅRѕRIRёS‰Rµ R¶SѓSЂRЅR°R»S–SЃS‚R°, R°, RЅR°RIRїR°RyeRё, RїRѕS€RyeRѕRgRёR»Rѕ R№RѕRјSѓ.

RЇ RЅRµ R·RјS–Ri RgS–SЃS‚R°S‚Rё RїSЂR°S†S– RI RђRЅRiR»S–S— S– RјSѓSЃS–RI RїRѕRIRµSЂRЅSѓS‚RёSЃSЏ RgRѕ R†RЅRgS–S—. RџSЂR°RIRgR° RјRµRЅS– RyeRѕS€S‚SѓRIR°R»R° RgRѕSЂRѕRiRѕ. RќR°RIS–S‚SЊ S‚RµRїRµSЂ S†Rµ R±S–R»SЊS€-RјRµRЅS€ S‚Rµ SЃR°RјRµ. RќRµS‰RѕRgR°RIRЅRѕ SЏ RЅR°RyeSЂSѓS‚RёRI RyeS–RЅRѕS„S–R»SЊRј S–R· RЎRIS–S‚R»R°RЅRѕSЋ RЎS‚R°R»S–RЅRѕSЋ [RђR»R»S–R»SѓS”RIRѕSЋ], S– R·RЅRѕRISѓ SЃRyeR»R°R»RѕSЃSЏ RISЂR°R¶RµRЅRЅSЏ, S‰Rѕ SЏ R·R°RЅR°RgS‚Rѕ RЅRµS‚RѕR»RµSЂR°RЅS‚RЅRёR№ RgRѕ SЂRµR¶RёRјSѓ.

RџRѕRIRµSЂRЅSѓRIS€RёSЃSЊ S–R· RњRѕSЃRyeRIRё, SЏ RЅRµ RјS–Ri RЅRµ RIS–RgS‡SѓRIR°S‚Rё RїSЂRµR·RёSЂSЃS‚RIR° RgRѕ RISЃS–S… RїRѕRїSѓS‚RЅRёRyeS–RI, SЏRyeS–, RїRѕRgS–R±RЅRѕ RgRѕ R’RµR±R±S–RI, RїSЂRѕSЃR»R°RIR»SЏR»Rё R R°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRёR№ RЎRѕSЋR· SЏRye "RЅRѕRISѓ S†RёRIS–R»S–R·R°S†S–SЋ". RЇ R·S–RiRЅR°RI SЃRIRѕSЋ R·R»S–SЃS‚SЊ Sѓ SЃS‚R°S‚S‚S–, RЅR°RїRёSЃR°RЅS–R№ RgR»SЏ "R†RЅT‘R»S–S€ SЂRµRISЋ" RїS–Rg R·R°RiRѕR»RѕRIRyeRѕRј "R”RѕSЂRѕRiS– RgSЂSѓR·S– R R°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeRѕRiRѕ RЎRѕSЋR·Sѓ".

RЇ RIRIR°R¶R°SЋ RѕRgRЅS–S”SЋ R· RЅR°R№R±S–R»SЊS€RёS… R·R°RiR°RgRѕRye RЅR°S€RѕRiRѕ S‡R°SЃSѓ S‚RѕR№ S„R°RyeS‚, S‰Rѕ R»SЋRgRё, SЏRyeS– RїSЂRѕRIRѕRgSЏS‚SЊ SЃRIRѕS” R¶RёS‚S‚SЏ, RѕR±SЃS‚RѕSЋSЋS‡Rё SЃRIRѕR±RѕRgSѓ RIRёSЃR»RѕRISѓ S‚R° RyeR»R°SЃRѕRISѓ SЃRїSЂR°RIRµRgR»RёRIS–SЃS‚SЊ, RјRѕR¶SѓS‚SЊ RЅR°SЃS‚S–R»SЊRyeRё R·R°S…RѕRїR»SЋRIR°S‚RёSЃSЏ S‚R°RyeRѕSЋ SЏRIRЅRѕ R±SЂSѓS‚R°R»SЊRЅRѕSЋ S– RgSѓS…RѕRIRЅRѕ RѕR±RјRµR¶RµRЅRѕSЋ S‚RёSЂR°RЅS–S”SЋ. RЇRye, RgRѕ SЂRµS‡S–, RјRѕR¶RЅR° R·SЂRѕR·SѓRјS–S‚Rё RѕSЃS–R± RЅR° RyeS€S‚R°R»S‚ R¤S–R»R±S– S‚R° R‘R»R°RЅS‚R°, SЏRyeS– R·RЅR°R№S€R»Rё SЃRIS–R№ S–RgRµR°R» R»SЋRgSЃS‚RIR° S‚R°Rј, RgRµ RIS–RЅ R±SѓRI R°R±SЃRѕR»SЋS‚RЅRѕ RїSЂRѕS‚RёR»RµR¶RЅRёR№ S‚RѕRјSѓ, RI SЏRyeRёR№ RIRѕRЅRё RIS–SЂRёR»Rё?

Rџ.: R† RѕSЃS‚R°RЅRЅS” R·R°RїRёS‚R°RЅRЅSЏ. RЇRye R’Rё SЂRѕR·RiR»SЏRgR°S”S‚Rµ RiRѕR»RѕRg RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅS– R· RїRµSЂSЃRїRµRyeS‚RёRIRё Rї’SЏS‚RgRµSЃSЏS‚SЊRѕS… SЂRѕRyeS–RI?

R’.: R‘RµR· SЃSѓRјRЅS–RISѓ S†Rµ R±SѓRI RѕRgRёRЅ S–R· RЅR°R№R±S–R»SЊS€RёS… R·R»RѕS‡RёRЅS–RI RЅR°S€RёS… S‡R°SЃS–RI, RЅRµ RјRµRЅS€RёR№, RЅS–R¶ S”RISЂRµR№SЃSЊRyeR° RyeR°S‚R°SЃS‚SЂRѕS„R° S‡Rё RIS–SЂRјRµRЅSЃSЊRyeR° RјR°SЃR°RyeSЂR°. RђR»Rµ RјRµRЅRµ R·R°RIR¶RgRё RISЂR°R¶R°S”, SЏRye R»SЋRgRё, RiRѕRIRѕSЂSЏS‡Rё RїSЂRѕ RIRµR»RёRyeS– SЃS‚SЂR°S…S–S‚S‚SЏ RЅR°S€RѕRiRѕ SЃS‚RѕR»S–S‚S‚SЏ – RђSѓS€RIS–S†, RGS–SЂRѕSЃS–RјSѓ S‚R° S–RЅS€S–, RЅS–RyeRѕR»Rё RЅRµ R·RiR°RgSѓSЋS‚SЊ RiRѕR»RѕRg RI RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅS–. RЇRyeRѕSЃSЊ RїS–SЃR»SЏ RISЃS–S… S‚RёS… SЂRѕRyeS–RI S‰Rµ RЅRµ SѓSЃRIS–RgRѕRјR»RµRЅRѕ S‚RѕRiRѕ S„R°RyeS‚Sѓ, S‰Rѕ RЎS‚R°R»S–RЅ Sѓ 1930-S… SЂRѕRyeR°S… SѓR±RёRI RЅR°R±R°RiR°S‚Rѕ R±S–R»SЊS€Rµ R»SЋRgRµR№, RЅS–R¶ R“S–S‚R»RµSЂ RIRёRЅRёS‰RёRI S”RISЂRµS—RI.

R†RЅS‚RµSЂRI’SЋ RїSЂRѕRIS–RI R‘RѕRiRgR°RЅ RќR°RiR°R№R»Rѕ 1 R±RµSЂRµR·RЅSЏ 1983 SЂ. Sѓ R RѕR±RµSЂS‚SЃR±SЂS–RgR¶S– (RђRЅRiR»S–SЏ).

R§RёS‚R°R№S‚Rµ S‚R°RyeRѕR¶:

RЎR•RќRђRў RЎRЁRђ: R“RћR›RћR”RћRњRћR  – R¦R• R“R•RќRћR¦R?R”

R”RћRќRћRЎR?, RЎRђRњRћR“RћRќ R† R‘RђR™R”RЈR–R†RЎRўR¬ R”Rћ RњRђR™RќRђ. RЇRљ R“RћR›RћR”RћRњRћR  R—RњR†RќR?R’ R–R?RўRўR„R’R?R™ RЈRљR›RђR” RЎR•R›Rђ

R R°RgSЏRЅSЃSЊRyeR° RїSЂRµSЃR° 1932-1933: "R“RѕR»RѕRgRЅS– R±SѓRЅS‚Rё RЅR° R—R°S…RѕRgS–, RЅRѕRIS– SЂRµSЃS‚RѕSЂR°RЅRё Sѓ RGR°SЂRyeRѕRIS–"

"RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅSЃSЊRyeS– R·RѕS€RёS‚Rё" - S„SЂR°RЅS†SѓR·SЊRyeRёR№ RyeRѕRјS–RyeSЃ RїSЂRѕ R“RѕR»RѕRgRѕRјRѕSЂ S– RЅRѕSЃS‚R°R»SЊRiS–SЋ R·R° RЎR RЎR 

R“RѕR»RѕRg Sѓ RЎR RЎR . RЈSЂRёRIRѕRye S–R· RyeRЅRёRiRё RўRёRјRѕS‚S– RЎRЅR°R№RgRµSЂR° "RљSЂRёRIR°RIS– R—RµRјR»S–"

R’SЃS– RјR°S‚RµSЂS–R°R»Rё R·R° S‚RµRјRѕSЋ "R“RѕR»RѕRgRѕRјRѕSЂ"

RќRµR·R°R»RµR¶RЅR° RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅR°

RќS–S…S‚Rѕ RЅRµ RјS–Ri SЃRyeR°R·R°S‚Rё, SЃRyeS–R»SЊRyeRё R»SЋRgRµR№ RїS–Rg R’RµSЂS…RѕRIRЅRѕSЋ R R°RgRѕSЋ: S‚RёSЃSЏS‡S–, RgRµSЃSЏS‚RyeRё S‚RёSЃSЏS‡? Rђ RјRѕR¶Rµ, RISЃS– SЃS‚Rѕ S‚RёSЃSЏS‡? R”RµRїSѓS‚R°S‚Rё, SЏRyeS– RїSЂRѕS…RѕRgRёR»Rё RyeSЂS–R·SЊ RЅR°S‚RѕRIRї, RЅRµ R·RЅR°R»Rё S‚RѕS‡RЅRѕRiRѕ S‡RёSЃR»R°. R‘SѓRI SЃRѕRЅSЏS‡RЅRёR№ SЃSѓR±RѕS‚RЅS–R№ SЂR°RЅRѕRye 24 SЃRµSЂRїRЅSЏ.

100 RyeRЅRёRi RќRµR·R°R»RµR¶RЅRѕSЃS‚S–. "R†SЃS‚RѕSЂRёS‡RЅR° RїSЂR°RIRgR°" SЂRµRyeRѕRјRµRЅRgSѓS”

RџRµSЂRµR»S–Rye RIRёRgR°RЅSЊ, SЏRyeS– RIRёR№S€R»Rё R·R° S‡R°SЃS–RI RЅRµR·R°R»RµR¶RЅRѕSЃS‚S– S– SЏRyeS– RgR°SЋS‚SЊ RјRѕR¶R»RёRIS–SЃS‚SЊ RїS–R·RЅR°S‚Rё S–SЃS‚RѕSЂS–SЋ RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅRё, R„RISЂRѕRїRё, RЅR°S€RёS… SЃSѓSЃS–RgS–RI, RѕRyeSЂRµRјRёS… R»SЋRgRµR№ S– SЏRIRёS‰. R† SЏRyeS– SЂRѕR±R»SЏS‚SЊ S†Rµ R· SЂS–R·RЅRёS… RїRµSЂSЃRїRµRyeS‚RёRI. RџRµRIRЅS–, S‰Rѕ S‡R°SЃ, RIRёS‚SЂR°S‡RµRЅRёR№ RЅR° S‡RёS‚R°RЅRЅSЏ RЅRµ R±SѓRgRµ RIS‚SЂR°S‡RµRЅRёRј.

RЈRyeSЂR°S—RЅS†S–. RќR°R№RЅRµS‰R°SЃR»RёRIS–S€R° RЅR°S†S–SЏ S‡RѕS‚RёSЂSЊRѕS… RyeRѕRЅS‚RёRЅRµRЅS‚S–RI

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